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I agree that the resurrections will be done in stages, 'rank' is the Greek word for it. And further along in that same chapter we learn the order of those stages. The dead rise first, then those who are alive. Even later on, because they could not then know what had yet to be revealed, the Lord give's the apostle even more information, adding to the event an additional order in the ranks of the resurrected, that the church will appear, or manifest, that is to say, blaze forth when Christ blazes forth in glory.
This leaves
the dead rise first
the church manifests in the superheavenly places
those who are alive and remain are raised into the air, that is to say, into the resurrected breath of life body.
AT THE LAST TRUMP
As Daneil says, some will be raised into their shame and some into their life.
Paul says, in a letter written after Acts had past, and the hopes contained therein held in suspention, in Phi 3:11 that he sought to attain unto the out resurrection out from among the dead. He didn't say anything about it happening in any other timeframe than that which the Lord had already given Him to know, and that is it all happens in a moment, Greek atomos, a time indivisible by any further divisions, in the twinkling of an eye, every man in their own order.
But you won't believe it, although I wished you would stop adding your own interpretation and simply accept that God has given His, but like He says, the whole world shall be deceived. That is the warning, to remain and watch, that He is against those who teach His children to fly to save their souls, their selfish souls, only thinking about themselves flying away and defending this Satanic doctrine of demons from a lady having visions in her feaver back in the 1830's when some masonic socialists were present and capitolized on it as a way to break apart the church.
Oh well, I can only show the verses, what more can I do?
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If you are a Christian, do you know what spiritual gifts you have been given? Are you using them to advance the Lord's kingdom? Is your motivation a love of the Lord?
This isn't a thread about me. Don't be a jerk. It's bad enough you twist the Lord's words, use words that aren't even in the Bible, and preach things God says He is against you preaching, but to state that because I don't change the word of God like you do, that somehow my charactor is worthy of questioning. How rediculous.
When you see me making doctrines that I don't have verses that state things plainly, adding extra Biblical words and standing by them rather than by God's Holy Words, then please do question my intentions.
Right now though, it is you who insist on using Words that are nonBiblical, and you who can't answer any of the questions with plain verses, not me, besides, I already saw that you don't really care what God said in Ez, what Christ said, what John said, or what Paul said. So I didn't even write this thread to you watcher, I wrote this to all those who have heard your view, but might desire to know what the Bible says.
The first resurrection is of those who were not deceived and did not take the beasts mark when the beast was here on earth giving his marks on the peoples of the earth.
IT IS NOT WRITTEN:
Chrsit comes before the first trump,
Chirst comes at the the second trump,
Chirst comes at the the third trump,
Chirst comes at the the fourth trump,
Chirst comes at the the fifth trump,
Chirst comes at the the sixth trump.
IT IS WRITTEN THAT CHRIST COMES:
At the last trump
At the seventh trump.
Hmmm. I wonder which trump Christ comes to resurrect the people of the earth in?
Ask any rapturists, some other time, all you gotta do is ignore all that is written and add some other words and ideas and whala, you too can believe in a rapture. Totally sad.
Here is the center verse of the Bible:
Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
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The Resurrection of the Just
That the resurrection of the righteous will occur in stages is clearly taught in 1 Corinthians 15:20-24. In fact, the first stage of the resurrection of the righteous has already happened, for verse 20 says that "Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep."
Verses 22 and 23 go on to explain that all who have died in Christ shall be made alive, "but each in his own order: Christ, the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming."
The imagery of the harvest that is used in these verses is a key to understanding the first resurrection — the resurrection of the righteous.
The Harvest Imagery
In Bible times the harvest was conducted in three stages. It began with the gathering of the first fruits which were offered as a sacrifice of thanksgiving to God.
It proceeded with the general harvest. But not all was taken in this harvest. Some of the crop was left in the field to be gathered by the poor and the needy. This was called the gleanings (Leviticus 19:9-10).
Using this imagery, the Bible presents the resurrection of Jesus as the "first fruits" of the resurrection of the righteous. The gathering of the Church Age saints, living and dead, at the appearing of the Lord (the Rapture) is thus the general harvest stage of the resurrection of the righteous (John 14:1-3 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18).
But there is a third and final stage to this resurrection of the righteous. It is the gleanings, and it occurs at the end of the Tribulation when the Lord's Second Coming takes place. At that time two final groups of the righteous will be resurrected: 1) the Tribulation martyrs (Revelation 20:4), and 2) the Old Testament saints (Dan 12:2).
Some people are startled by the thought that the Old Testament saints will not be resurrected until the end of the Tribulation. But keep in mind that the Rapture is a promise to the Church, and the Church only. Also, the book of Daniel makes it clear that the Old Testament saints will be resurrected at the end of the "time of distress" (Daniel 12:1-2).
So the first resurrection, the resurrection of the righteous, occurs in three stages, beginning with Christ, continuing with the Church at the Rapture, and culminating with the Tribulation martyrs and the Old Testament saints at the return of Jesus.
The Resurrection of the Unjust
The second type of resurrection, "the resurrection of the wicked" (Acts 24:15), will take place all at one time at the end of the millennial reign of Jesus. This is at the time of the Great White Throne Judgment, the judgment of the damned (Revelation 20:11-15).
Every person who ever failed to relate to God in faith will be resurrected at this time, regardless of when he or she may have lived and died — whether before or after the Cross. This resurrection will also include the unjust who died during the Tribulation and the Millennium.
There will be no need for an additional resurrection of the righteous at the end of the Millennium, because all those born during that time who accept Jesus as their Savior will live to the end of the Lord's reign (Isaiah 65:19-20). "'As the lifetime of a tree, so shall be the days of My people,'. . . says the Lord" (Isaiah 65:22,25). In other words, life spans during the Millennium will be returned to what they were at the beginning of time, before the flood.
The Certainty of Judgment
Resurrection will be followed by judgment. Solomon wrote, "Fear God and keep His commandments . . . For God will bring every act to judgment, everything which is hidden, whether it is good or evil" (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14).
The apostle Paul emphasized the certainty of judgment. In Romans 2:16 he wrote, "God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus." And in Romans 14:10,12 he stated, "We shall all stand before the judgment seat of God . . . So then each one of us shall give account of himself to God." The writer to the Hebrews summed it up succinctly: "It is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment" (Hebrews 9:27).
The Completed Judgment
But not all people are going to be judged at the same time. Just as there are going to be several resurrections, there are also going to be several judgments.
One judgment has already taken place. It is the judgment of believers for their sins.
This comes as a surprise to most Christians. Some find it hard to believe. I'll never forget when I realized it from my study of Scripture. I became filled with so much joy that I felt like jumping pews all day!
Let me put it to you in another way. If you are truly born again, then you will never stand before the Lord and be judged of your sins. That's because the judgment for your sins took place at the Cross.
You see, all your sins, and mine, were placed upon Jesus as He hung upon the Cross, and the wrath we deserve was poured out upon Him (2 Corinthians 5:21). He became our substitute. He took our judgment for sin (Romans 8:3 and Galatians 3:13).
If you have appropriated the blood of Jesus to your life by accepting Him as your Lord and Savior, then your sins have been forgiven. They have also been forgotten in the sense that God will never remember them against you again (Isaiah 43:25 and Hebrews 8:12).
Think of it — forgiven and forgotten! That is grace!
The Judgment of the Just
If the Redeemed will never be judged of their sins, then what will they be judged of, and when will the judgment take place?
The Bible teaches that the Redeemed will be judged of their works, not to determine their eternal destiny, but to determine their degrees of reward.
Christians do not work to be saved; they work because they are saved. In fact, the Bible says they are saved to do good works (Ephesians 2:10 and Titus 2:14). Such good works, if properly done, will be done in the power of the Holy Spirit (1 Peter 4:11) and for the glory of God (1 Corinthians 10:31).
The Significance of Spiritual Gifts
Paul says in 1 Corinthians 12 that every person who is born again receives at least one supernatural spiritual gift from the Holy Spirit. A person may receive more than one gift. And, if you are a good steward of the gifts you receive, then you may receive additional gifts as you develop spiritually (Luke 19:26).
God expects us to use our spiritual gifts to advance His kingdom. This is what the judgment of works will be all about. Each of us who are redeemed will stand before the Lord Jesus and give an accounting of how we used our gifts to advance the kingdom of God on earth.
We will be judged as to the quantity of our works (Luke 19:11-27; Romans 2:6-7). We will be judged as to the quality of our works (1 Corinthians 3:10-14). Finally, we will be judged as to the motivation of our works ( 1 Corinthians 4:5).
I can imagine some famous evangelist being brought before the Lord for judgment.
"How did you use your spiritual gifts to advance my kingdom?" asks the Lord.
"I used my gifts as a teacher and evangelist to preach the gospel to millions," replies the preacher.
"Yes," says the Lord, "you certainly did that. But, I know your heart, and thus I know your motivation. You preached not because you loved Me but because you wanted to become famous. You wanted to have your picture published on the cover of Time magazine. You accomplished that in February of 1953. Here's your picture. That's all the reward I have for you!"
And then I can imagine the Lord calling up a little old lady that no one has ever heard of.
"Dear, on the day you accepted Me as your Lord and Savior, I gave you one gift — the gift of mercy. And every time someone was ill, you were the first to offer comfort and encouragement. You were the one who organized the prayer chain. Every time someone went to the hospital, you were the first to visit them. Every time someone died, you were the one who organized the meals. And you did all of these things simply because you loved me."
The Lord will give her a crown full of so many jewels that she will have a neck ache for eternity!
Seriously, there will be degrees of rewards. They will be manifested in the crowns we receive (2 Timothy 4:7-8), the robes we wear (Revelation 19:8), and the degrees of ruling authority which we exercise with the Lord (Luke 19:11-27).
The Timing of the Judgments
When and where will the judgment of the Redeemed take place? The Bible indicates the judgment of believers who have lived and died during the Church Age will occur in Heaven before the judgment seat of Jesus, immediately following the Rapture of the Church (2 Corinthians 5:10 and Revelation 19:6-9).
Those who are saved and martyred during the Tribulation will be judged at the end of that period when they are resurrected at the Second Coming of Christ (Revelation 20:4). The Tribulation saints who live to the end of that terrible period are another group that will be judged at the Second Coming of Jesus in "the sheep and goat judgment" portrayed in Matthew 25:31-46. The Old Testament saints will also be judged at the time of the Second Coming (Ezekiel 20:34-38).
All the unrighteous who have ever lived will be resurrected and judged at the end of the millennial reign of Jesus.
The Judgment of the Unjust
The terrible judgment of the unrighteous is pictured in Revelation 20:11-15. It is called the "Great White Throne" judgment.
We are told that the wicked also will be judged of their works. But their judgment will be radically different from the judgment of the Redeemed. Whereas the Redeemed are judged of their works to determine their degrees of reward, the lost are judged of their works to determine their eternal destiny.
And since no one can be justified before God by their works (Isaiah 64:6 and Ephesians 2:8-10), all will be condemned to Hell. That's why I call this judgment "the judgment of the damned."
The unjust are also judged for another reason. There are going to be degrees of punishment (Luke 12:35-48; 20:45-47).
There is a popular myth in Christendom that says, "All sin is equal in the eyes of God." That is not true. The only way in which all sin is equal is that any sin, whether a white lie or murder, condemns us before God and necessitates a Savior.
But all sin is not equal in the eyes of God. For example, Proverbs 6:16-19 lists seven sins that the Lord particularly hates, including "hands that shed innocent blood." And the Bible makes it very clear that idolatry is a sin that is especially heinous in the eyes of God (Exodus 20:3-5).
Because God considers some sins worse than others, there will be degrees of punishment (Revelation 22:12), and these degrees will be specified at the Great White Throne judgment.
A Call to Repentance
Where do you stand with respect to the inevitable judgment which you will face before the Lord?
If you are a Christian, do you know what spiritual gifts you have been given? Are you using them to advance the Lord's kingdom? Is your motivation a love of the Lord?
If you have never confessed Jesus as your Lord and Savior, do you really want to participate in the judgment of the damned? Do you realize that the Bible says, "Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord"? That means Hitler and every vile person like him who has ever lived will one day make the confession of Jesus' lordship. You will too.
I urge you to make that confession now so that you can participate in the resurrection and judgment of the righteous. As you consider your decision, weigh carefully the following words from the book of Hebrews:
"Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him" — Hebrews 9:28
Notice carefully that this verse promises that for those who are ready for Him, Jesus will come "without reference to sin." That is a wonderful promise.
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Whoso rewardeth evil for good, evil shall not depart from his house. He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.
Proverbs 17:13,15
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In Rev 20, we have those who were not deceived and did not take the mark of the beast.
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"the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast"
Just as Christ had described in Mat 24, Satan's arrival defacto to the earth marks the 'great tribulation', and just like in Mat 24, those who are rewarded are those who remained and understood the command to watch.
They were present when Satan is on the earth, they take part in the first resurrection.
Those who disagree with the Bible in favor of traditions of men are also documented in the Bible as having not the love for the truth.
IMO, there is nothing the Bible can say to convence those who do not love the truth:
2Ti 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Th 2:11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
But the rapturists would have us believe what?
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for THE RAPTURE day shall not come, except there come a RAPTURE first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
THEN AFTER THIS, THE RAPTURE???
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The Second Resurrection
There are many verses in the Bible that describe the two resurrections.
Daniel 12:2
Rev 20:5-6
1 Cor. 15:20-24, 52-57
Isa 26:19
But let’s just concentrate for now on the second resurrection. I believe that we can all agree from Rev 20:12 that this resurrection is reserved for the damned. So the question for this thread is, does Rev 20 refer to the beginning or the ending of the second resurrection?
First, let’s talk about the final abode for the damned. Hell or the "lake of fire" is the final abode for the damned. Many believe that Hades and Hell, although bad places of torment, are not the same place. I am not going to cover it here, but there is a great explanation of this in the Lutzer book, One Minute After You Die. See Rev 20:10.14-15 But, for the reader who wants verses, here they are without explanation: Hades/Sheol (good side - Abraham’s bosom) Luke 16:23-26, Gen 37:35, Gen 49:23. (Upon Christ’s victory over death, He took the good side to heaven, so at the present time, there is no longer a Hades/Sheol good side.) Hades/Sheol (bad side) Ezek 26:20, Job 26:5-6, Deut. 32:22, Rev 20:10,14-15, Hell (gehenna) Josh 15:8, 2 Kings 23:10, Neh 11:30, Mark 9:44,46,48.
Let’s see what the Bible says about the order of those to go into hell:
First : Antichrist
…………killed by the Lord, II Thess. 2:8, Hab 3:13
…………arrival of his spirit in Sheol, Isa. 14:3-9
…………fate of his dead body on earth, Isa 14:16-20
…………resurrected and "cast alive" into Hell, Rev 19:20
Second: False Prophet
…………given his resurrected body and cast into Hell, Rev 19:20
Third : Goats (tribulation unsaved survivors) - unworthy for the Kingdom
…………judged, Matt 25:31-46
…………slain and souls sent to Hades/Sheol, Rev 19:21
…………eternal judgment is at the GWT, still future at this point
Fourth: Millennium unbelievers
…………only includes Gentiles, all Jews are saved, Jer 31:31-34
…………die at one hundred years old, Isa 65:20
…………eternal judgment is at the GWT, still future at this point
Fifth: Satan and his angels
…………bound in a pit for one thousand years, Rev 20:1-3
…………loosed for a "little season", Rev 20:3,7-8
…………destroyed with fire from God, Rev 20:9
…………thrown into Hell, "lake of fire", Rev 20:10
…………devil’s angels get sent there too, Matt 25:41
Sixth: Unsaved Dead of the Ages
…………judged according to the "things written in the books", Rev 20:12
…………souls delivered up from Hades/Sheol, Rev 20:13
…………resurrected souls/bodies cast into the "lake of fire", Rev 20:15
…………death and Hades/Sheol cast into Hell ("lake of fire"), Rev. 20:14
In summary, when the Bible says that the unsaved will be judged in one thousand years (Rev 20), does that mean that this is when the judgment starts. No, absolutely not. It means that this time period will be the final phase. This study should help us to see that the "resurrections" are not limited to one time period, but are in a progression. Thus we see that some arrive in Hell well ahead of the rest.
I did this study because of the implications for the first resurrection. Will some get resurrected into heaven ahead of the Rev 20 indication?
Of course, 1 Cor. 15:20-23, mentioned above, gives us the answer. There is a sequence of groups for the first resurrection, with Christ being the "first fruits". Revelation 20 gives us the time frame for the LAST of the first resurrection
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Rev 20:2
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3
And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Rev 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and a thousand years.
Rev 20:5
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection.
This tells us plainly who are in the first resurrection. It will be those who were not deceived, did not receive the mark of the one who is shut up in the bottemless pit for a thousand years.
If this is the first resurrection, and the 'IF' is the type that assumes that the Bible has just said it is a fact, then in order for a pre tribulation rap... to take place, there would have to be a resurrection before this first resurrection.
2Th 2:3
. Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Two things must come first is what this verse says.
The apostacy, rusutling in a mass denial of the truth of the Word.
The son of perdition revealed showing himself to be God.
The believers are going to be here when he is revealed. Many will think Christ has returned to fly them away.
...the souls of them...had not worshipped the beast...reigned with...the first resurrection...
Rev. 1 - 10 is a very enlightening section.
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