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oneinchrist
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LOL Eden, I guess its a good thing that the friends still remembered each other.

With love in Christ, Daniel

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Is this a jest or ...? Would you say that, judging from the first paragraph, this would be a jest of unbelievers, or could believers still make a jest like this one ... "the waiters were good looking and had buff bodies"?

Or can both the "girlfriends" and the "waiters" have been Christians?

SOME OLD GIRLFRIENDS MEET FOR DINNER ...

A group of 40-year-old girlfriends discussed where they should meet for dinner. Finally, it was agreed upon that they should meet at the Ocean View Restaurant, because the waiters there were good looking and had buff bodies.
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10 years later at 50-years-of-age, the group once again discussed where they should meet for dinner. Finally, it was agreed that they should meet at the Ocean View Restaurant, because the food there was very good and the wine selection was good also.
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10 years later at 60-years-of-age, the group once again discussed where they should meet for dinner. Finally, it was agreed that they should meet at the Ocean View Restaurant, because they could eat there in peace and quiet and the restaurant had a beautiful view of the ocean.
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10 years later at 70-years-of-age, the group once again discussed where they should meet for dinner. Finally, it was agreed that they should meet at the Ocean View Restaurant, because the restaurant was wheel chair accessible and they even had an elevator.
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10 years later, at 80-years-of-age, the group once again discussed where they should meet for dinner. Finally, it was agreed that they should meet at the Ocean View Restaurant, because they had never been there before.

love, Eden

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Consider the rod of Moses. By this time in his life, Moses had been a shepherd as long as he had been a prince, and he’d grown accustomed to it. Herding sheep wasn’t as lively as living with Egyptian royalty, but it had its moments, especially the moment God spoke to him through a burning bush that didn’t burn up. God announced that Moses was his man to deliver the Israelites. Moses wasn’t convinced he was the one for the job. God said that who Moses was didn’t matter; what mattered was who God was. And God set out to demonstrate.

"Moses," spoke the voice from the bush, "throw down your staff."
Moses, who had walked this mountain for forty years, was not comfortable with the command.
"God, you know a lot about a lot of things, but you may not know that out here, well, you just don’t go around throwing down your staff. You never know when . . ."
"Throw it down, Moses."
Moses threw it down. The rod became a snake, and Moses began to run.
"Moses!"
The old shepherd stopped.
"Pick up the snake."
Moses peered over his shoulder, first at the snake and then the bush, and then he gave the most courageous response he could muster.
“What?”
"Pick up the snake . . . by the tail." (God had to be smiling at this point.)
"God, I don’t mean to object. I mean, you know a lot of things, but out here in the desert, well, you don’t pick up snakes too often, and you never pick up snakes by the tail."
"Moses!"
"Yes sir."

Just as Moses’ hand touched the squirmy scales of the snake, it hardened. And Moses lifted up the rod. The same rod he would lift up in Pharaoh’s court. The same rod he would lift up to divide the water and guide two million people through a desert. The rod that would remind Moses that if God can make a stick become a snake, then become a stick again— then perhaps he can do something with stubborn hearts and a stiff-necked people.

( Finding Joy in the Journey by Max Lucado)

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Well said Carol.

Ephesians 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

Source- Strong’s Greek = jesting – Greek word is as follows:
2160. eutrapelia eutrapelia, (yoo-trap-el-ee'-ah)
from a compound of 2095 and a derivative of the base of 5157 (meaning well-turned, i.e. ready at repartee, jocose); witticism, i.e. (in a vulgar sense) ribaldry:--jesting.

Source - Merriam-Webster’s 11th Collegiate Dictionary/Thesaurus

Definition of : jest
1 : an utterance (as a jeer or quip) intended to be taken as mockery or humor
2 a : PRANK b : a ludicrous circumstance or incident
3 a : a frivolous mood or manner (spoken in jest) b : gaiety and merriment
4 : LAUGHINGSTOCK
synonyms FUN

Definition of : jocose
Etymology: Latin jocosus, from jocus joke
1 : given to joking : MERRY
2 : characterized by joking : HUMOROUS
synonyms see WITTY

Definition of : fun
1 : what provides amusement or enjoyment; specifically : playful often boisterous action or speech (full of fun)
2 : a mood for finding or making amusement (all in fun)
3 a : AMUSEMENT, ENJOYMENT (sickness takes all the fun out of life)
b : derisive jest : SPORT, RIDICULE (a figure of fun)
4 : violent or excited activity or argument (let a snake loose in the classroom; then the fun began)
synonyms FUN, JEST, SPORT, GAME, PLAY

Definition of : merriment
1 : lighthearted gaiety or fun-making : HILARITY
2 : a lively celebration or party : FESTIVITY
Synonyms: mirth, glee, hilarity, jocularity, jocundity, jollity, joviality
merrymaking, festivity, gaiety, jollity, revel, reveling, revelment, revelry, whoopee

Definition of : repartee
1 a : a quick and witty reply b : a succession or interchange of clever retorts : amusing and usually light sparring with words
2 : adroitness and cleverness in reply : skill in repartee
synonyms WIT

Definition of : wit
1 a: the ability to relate seemingly disparate things so as to illuminate or amuse (b) : a talent for banter or persiflage (c) : a witty utterance or exchange (d): clever or apt humor.
synonyms WIT, HUMOR, IRONY, REPARTEE, HUMORIST , comedian, comic, droll, funnyman, jester, joker, jokester, quipster,

Definition of : witty
:provoking or intended to provoke mirth : marked by or full of wit : smartly facetious or jocular : quick or ready to see or express illuminating or amusing relationships or insights.
Synonyms: facetious, humorous, jocose, jocular
Related Words: amusing, diverting, entertaining; scintillating, sparkling; penetrating, piercing, probing; funny, ridiculous, risible

Definition of : facetious
1 : joking or jesting often inappropriately : WAGGISH
2 : meant to be humorous or funny : not serious
Synonyms: witty, humorous, jocose, jocular
Related Words: jesting, joking, quipping, wisecracking; blithe, jocund, jolly, jovial, merry; comic, comical, droll, funny, laughable, ludicrous

Definition of : jocular
1 : given to jesting : habitually jolly or jocund
2 : characterized by jesting : PLAYFUL
Synonyms: witty, facetious, humorous, jocose
Related Words: jolly, jovial, merry; playful, sportive; comic, comical, droll, laughable, ludicrous

Definition of : amuse
1 a archaic : to divert the attention of so as to deceive b obsolete : to occupy the attention of : ABSORB c obsolete : DISTRACT, BEWILDER
2 a : to entertain or occupy in a light, playful, or pleasant manner b : to appeal to the sense of humor of .
synonyms: divert, entertain, recreate


Definition of : banter
: to speak to or address in a witty and teasing manner.
: to speak or act playfully or wittily. :to make fun of good-naturedly.
Synonyms: chaff, fool, fun, jest, ||jive, joke, jolly, josh, kid, rag, razz, rib
Related Word: deride, guy, mock, quiz, rally, ridicule, satirize, taunt, tease, twit
Idioms: make fun of, make merry with, poke fun at

Definition of : persiflage
: frivolous bantering talk : light raillery


Definition of : raillery
1: good-natured ridicule : BANTER 2 : JEST

Nor jesting, i. e., turning conversation so as to create laughter. The word properly means, wittiness, facetiousness, esteemed by the heathens an half-virtue. But how frequently even this quenches the Spirit, those who are tender of conscience know. This practice indicates an empty mind and is a disgrace to the Christian profession, as though one were out of employment for his Redeemer.
jesting-- found nowhere else in the New Testament: implying strictly that versatility which turns about and adapts itself, without regard to principle, to the shifting circumstances of the moment, and to the varying moods of those with whom it may deal. Not scurrile buffoonery, but refined "persiflage" and "badinage," for which Ephesus was famed [PLAUTUS, A Boastful Soldier, 3.1,42-52], and which, so far from being censured, was and is thought by the world a pleasant accomplishment. In Col 3:8, "filthy communication" refers to the foulness; "foolish talking," to the folly; "jesting," to the false refinement (and trifling witticism [TITTMANN]) Of discourse unseasoned with the salt of grace [TRENCH].
rather giving of thanks--a happy play on sounds in Greek, "eucharistia" contrasted with "eutrapelia"; refined "jesting" and subtle humor sometimes offend the tender feelings of grace; "giving of thanks" gives that real cheerfulness of spirit to believers which the worldly try to get from "jesting" (Ephesians 5:19,20; James 5:13).

Merriam -Websters Classics Edition Dictionary defines — amuse: To divert the attention of so as to deceive.
Amuse stresses engaging the attention so as to keep one interested or engrossed.
Muse: A state of deep thought, meditate, ponder. Consider the word, “amoral”, which means “outside the sphere to which moral judgments apply. Lacking moral sensibility. In other words, you have parked your moral sensibility in neutral. You are willing to go either way. Amuse means your mind is parked in neutral. It is open to amusement.

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Jesus told parables to teach, and we have modern day parables and stories. But this joke, and others like it, teaches the wrong things. It seems to be saying that Jesus and Satan are equals who are competing, yet we know that Jesus is eternal God and Satan is only a created being. This joke suggests that our works have value and need to be saved instead of teaching the salvation of our souls by Grace. It's a clean joke and not outright insulting like some are, but it leads to wrong conclusions instead of Truth.

Some of the jokes about the silly way people act toward God are pretty funny to me because they're jokes about human nature.

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heard this joke before. I am not real comfortable with jokes about Jesus, but maybe it is just me.
betty

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Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

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and when is a jest medicine with a message?

Some one posted this on another board what do U all think?

Jesus and Satan were having an on-going argument about who was better on the computer. They had been going at it for days, and frankly God was tired of hearing all the bickering.

Finally fed up, God said, "THAT'S IT! I have had enough. I am going to set up a test that will run for two hours, and from those results, I will judge who does the better job."

So Satan and Jesus sat down at the keyboards and typed away.

They moused.

They faxed.

They e-mailed.

They e-mailed with attachments.

They downloaded.

They did spreadsheets!

They wrote reports.

They created labels and cards.

They created charts and graphs.

They did some genealogy reports

They did every job known to man.

Jesus worked with

heavenly efficiency and Satan was faster than hell.

Then, ten minutes before their time was up, lightning suddenly flashed across the sky, thunder rolled, rain poured, and, of course, the power went off..

Satan stared at his blank screen and screamed every curse word known in the underworld.

Jesus just sighed.

Finally the electricity came back on, and each of them restarted their computers. Satan started searching frantically, screaming:

"It's gone! It's all GONE! "I lost everything when the power went out!"

Meanwhile, Jesus quietly started printing out all of his files from the past two hours of work.

Satan observed this and became irate.

"Wait!" he screamed. "That's not fair! He cheated! How come he has all his work and I don't have any?"

God just shrugged and said,

JESUS SAVES

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