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Topic: the dead are in the grave (sheol/hades)
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MentorsRiddle
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There is a difference between the soul, spirit and body.
When we die, our soul, which is in the blood and body are laid in the grave to rot and deteriorate.
Our spirit, which is eternal lives on.
Upon the day of the return of Christ, he shall resurrect our bodies and soul – transforming them into glorified bodies to which our spirit returns to.
I may be mistaken on this, but this is my understanding.
Your thoughts?
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With you I rise,
In you I sleep,
kneeling down I kiss your feet,
Grace abounds upon me now,
I once was lost
but now I'm found.
The gift of God dwells within,
To this love I now give in.
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Carol Swenson
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What does this verse mean?
1 Peter 3
18 Christ suffered for our sins once for all time. He never sinned, but he died for sinners to bring you safely home to God. He suffered physical death, but he was raised to life in the Spirit. 19 So he went and preached to the spirits in prison—20 those who disobeyed God long ago when God waited patiently while Noah was building his boat. Only eight people were saved from drowning in that terrible flood.
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Eden
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The dead are in "the grave" or in Hebrew in "sheol" and in Greek in "hades".
Genesis 37:35
And all his sons and daughters rose up to comfort him {Jacob}; but he refused to be comforted; and he said, I will go down into the grave 7585 (Heb., sheol, Greek, hades} to my son mourning.
1Kings 2:6
Do therefore according to thy wisdom, and let not his hoar head go down to the grave 7585 (Heb., sheol, Greek, hades} in peace.
Job 21:13 They spend their days in wealth, but in a moment they go down to the grave 7585 (Heb., sheol, Greek, hades}.
Psalm 6:5 For in death [there is] no remembrance of You: in the grave 7585 (Heb., sheol, Greek, hades} who shall give You thanks?
Psalm 31:17 Let me not be ashamed, O LORD; for I have called upon You: let the wicked be ashamed , [and] let them be silent in the grave 7585 ] (Heb., sheol, Greek, hades}.
Psalm 49:14 Like sheep they are laid in the grave 7585; death shall feed on them.
More often than not, in the Bible the Hebrew “sheol” and its Greek equivalent “hades” simply means “the grave where the body, the soul, the nephesh” decays.
Psalm 16:10
For You will not leave my soul in hell {Heb., sheol}; neither will You suffer Your Holy One to see corruption.
Acts 2:27
Because You will not leave my soul in hell {Grk., hades}, neither will You suffer Your Holy One to see corruption.
In “sheol” or “hades” or “the grave”, the body or soul or creature or nephesh or psyche simply DECAYS, unless God intervenes as God did in Jesus’s case. But all the other people who have died BEFORE Jesus and were put in the grave (sheol, hades) had DECAYED in sheol/hades. They were DEAD in hades.
Therefore the parable of the rich man and Lazarus CANNOT be a description of sheol/hades because in hades people decay, unless like Jesus, they are taken miraculously OUT OF SHEOL/HADES.
In sheol/hades, they decay; they therefore cannot "see Lazarus in Abraham's bosom" because it is "dark" in sheol/hades, and they cannot "shout across the gulf" because it is "silent" in hades, and so on. One would have to "cut many scriptures" from the Bible in order to make the parable of the rich man and Lazarus be a description of sheol/hades.
The account of the rich man and Lazarus in hades therefore has to be a parable, by which Jesus is trying to convey a parallel, spiritual truth.
But what that parallel, spiritual truth is, I'm not sure yet, because, "does Jesus provide an explanation of this parable" in the Bible, to His disciples, of whom I am one?
love, Eden
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