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Posted by mikerica (Member # 1499) on :
 
I want to see this movie but I'm worried that some might say that this is blasphemy. I can remember when I was a child, I used to wish that I had God's power. Who hasn't wished that? But because the movie has Jim Carey doing stupid things that obviously God wouldn't do, I'm worried that people might say that I'm committing blasphemy by watching this film. [Eek!] My husband has told me that God knows what is in your heart and that's the most important. But I don't want to be like some who praise and worship behind close doors then goes out and sins against God. [Eek!] I'm so paranoid that God will become angry at me because of something I consider funny. [1zhelp]

What's your opinion? [youpi]
 
Posted by Cameron (Member # 1090) on :
 
I don't think that God is going to get angry at you for being amused at something. Take the movie as it is intended...as entertainment.
 
Posted by becauseHElives (Member # 87) on :
 
God (YEHWEH) is not amused at the entertainment of today,

Mocking HIM, just the title is enough for anyone with a reverent fear of the LORD to know they should stay away.

Just a little poison every day is all it takes to kill someone

my opinion
 
Posted by Rach (Member # 1386) on :
 
It is a movie folks. I can walk out my door and see worse on the front lawn. God never intended for us to hide ourselves away and live completely stoic existances. Some things in life are silly.
 
Posted by njclary (Member # 4) on :
 
Well, Rach; Movies in and of themselves are fine, but when a movie strives to denigrate God, and this one does, It is WRONG and should be shunned by all. Especially the Christian. I don't like these kinds of portrayals. And God will deal with those who stoop to besmirch God's Image.

God Bless

Joel [dad]
 
Posted by becauseHElives (Member # 87) on :
 
It's no big deal, we are only talking about things that effect us and those around us eternally.

YEHWEH never intended for us to purposly expose ourself to flth either
 
Posted by Demonexecutor (Member # 1516) on :
 
Actually, I don't think it's going to be that bad. From the previews that I've seen, it looks like Jim Carrey's character is going to learn that it's not as easy being God as people think. I think we all wish we could have God's powers but this film shows that we wouldn't know what to do with them.

Marcia
 
Posted by Kindgo (Member # 2) on :
 
Carrey Brings Faith, Laughs to 'Bruce Almighty'....


Hey, wouldn't this fall under "mocking" God?

Carrey Brings Faith, Laughs to 'Bruce Almighty'
Reuters
May 20 2003 4:04PM

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Comic Jim Carrey, whose new movie "Bruce Almighty" debuts on Friday, believes in faith. Here is why.

Carrey, 41, who in the film plays a guy given God's powers, said that when he was a kid all he wanted was a mustang bike with a banana seat, but his father couldn't afford one.

He prayed hard, and two weeks later there it was: a lime green, mustang bike with a banana seat. Carrey won it, he said, in a raffle he never entered.

Fast forward to last fall, when Carrey is shooting a scene in which he plays a 10-year-old and he's concerned he just won't get it right. But when he arrives on set, what is waiting for him: a green mustang bike with a banana seat.

"I hadn't told anybody anything, but this is how my life has always been ... everything has something to do with that -- the power of faith. I'm not a Bible thumper. I'm not any of that stuff, but I do believe," he told reporters recently.

The concept of faith is at the center of "Bruce Almighty," in which after his most recent drama, 2001's "The Majestic," Carrey returns to the outlandish physical comedy, pratfalls and pranks that filled hit movies like "Liar, Liar."

Over the past several years, the Canadian-born Carrey has stretched his acting career by taking dramatic roles, but he said he does not prefer dramas over comedies, or vice versa.

"If it sounds like a great creative challenge to me, it doesn't matter whether it's dramatic or comedic," he said.

As Bruce Nolan, Carrey portrays a local television newscaster who aspires to be the anchor on the nightly news but is relegated to doing backup stories on, for instance, a bakery that makes the largest chocolate chip cookie on record.

'WHY ME, GOD?'

After Nolan's rival at the TV station gets the news anchor job and Nolan lashes out at his bosses on air, he is fired. That event leads him to ask that eternal question: "Why me, God, why me?"

Seeing an opportunity to take a vacation, God, played by Morgan Freeman, tells Nolan he can fill God's shoes, answer prayers and, in general, look after things for a while.

Nolan, of course, takes the opportunity to get a Ferrari, land a series of news scoops that win him back his job and eventually claim the anchor post -- all in about a week.

But pretty soon, he learns God's job is not all that easy, and he is eventually forced into a dilemma dealing with his live-in girlfriend, Grace, played by Jennifer Aniston.

"We worked well off of each other because Jennifer is a completely different type of person than I. I'm a person who just throws myself out there and does all kind of wild stuff," Carrey said. "She's the type who can sit there and allow things to come to her. I seek them out and destroy them."

"Bruce Almighty" may remind some of "It's a Wonderful Life" (1946), starring Jimmy Stewart as a man who cannot see the good he has created in his hometown until it is revealed for him by an angel. In fact, director Tom Shadyac uses a scene from that standard of Christmas-time TV viewing within "Bruce Almighty."

While audiences may see the film as carrying a religious message -- pray, have faith, and eventually God will show his plan -- Carrey and Shadyac said the movie is less about religion and more about the power of faith.

"We are spiritual in a sense," Carrey said. "I've always been big about faith. Everything in my life has happened for a reason, and a good reason."


http://my.aol.com/news/news_story.p...520160426221154
 
Posted by mikerica (Member # 1499) on :
 
Thank you Kindgo. That comforts me [clap2]
 
Posted by knowHim (Member # 8) on :
 
Just a little information so you can know what Bruce Almight is about....

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Plugged In Film Reviews

Ads for Bruce Almighty have had many Christians afraid that it may be an irreverent hack job on the level of Dogma or The Last Temptation of Christ. Jim Carrey’s comedy has problems, but bald-faced disrespect toward God and people of faith isn’t one of them. In fact, several scenes are simultaneously respectful, poignant and laugh-out-loud funny (such as when Bruce pleads for a "sign," blind to the fact that he’s driving behind a truck full of warning signs he should be heeding). God is aware of every deed and thought of every person on earth—facts contained in celestial filing cabinets. The Lord turns on a light, explaining to Bruce that many people find it uncomfortably bright and spend their lives hiding from it. Unsure that the man speaking to him really is God, Bruce tests him by holding up fingers behind his back and asking "how many," to which God responds, "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord your God."

Some families may object to Bruce shaking his fist at heaven and complaining that God isn’t doing His job ("God is a mean kid sitting on an anthill with a magnifying glass and I’m the ant. He could fix my life in five minutes if He wanted to"). He even tells God, "You **** !" But the Lord always gets the last word. Just as God chastened Job in Job 38-41, this onscreen Jehovah patiently, yet firmly tells Bruce to quit pouting and being so self-absorbed. Throughout the film, there’s an overriding sense of I’m God. You’re not. And I’m going to show you why you should trust Me. In the role of "Alpha and Omega," Morgan Freeman projects authority, dignity, kindness and a gentle sense of humor. Director Tom Shadyac does a nice job of making his Creator an omniscient, omnipotent, fully competent and loving personality rather than an impersonal force. God isn’t aloof, but intimately interested in seeing his children "be the miracle" to one another through acts of charity. As Bruce’s relationship with God grows, he begins to see the world—and his place in it—more clearly.

On the matter of prayer, Grace gives Bruce a string of prayer beads intended to keep him safe. The beads are less of a "good luck charm" than a dramatic device (in frustration, Bruce throws this symbol of faith away, only to have it returned to him later). We learn that Grace is a prayer warrior who intercedes for Bruce. People who approach God’s throne aren’t belittled, but respected. As God, Bruce is plagued with voices in his head, and learns they are a backlog of unanswered prayers that demand his attention. He answers "yes" to them all and discovers why it’s impractical and unhealthy for God to grant every request ("They’re all out of control. This mayhem. I don’t know what to do. ... There were so many, I just gave ’em all what they wanted").

Bruce enjoys his ability to perform miracles. He parts a bowl of soup Ten Commandments style. He also creates a hot sports car and stylish wardrobe for himself. But when Grace decides to leave him, Bruce can’t stop her or change her mind. In desperation, he asks God, "How do you make somebody love you without affecting free will?" The Lord replies, "Welcome to my world, son. If you come up with an answer to that one, let me know." Wow. Bruce also learns that truly loving people means seeing them through God’s eyes. This experience leads him to cry out to his Maker, "I want You to decide what’s right for me. I surrender to Your will!"

If the film has a spiritual flaw, it’s that it paints an incomplete picture of God’s character. There’s no sense of moral judgment or accountability (the fact that Bruce and Grace are shacking up never factors into heavenly chitchat). With no sin crisis, humanity’s need for redemption is replaced by a need for greater self- and God-awareness. The only use of Jesus’ name here is as a profanity. In the end, Freeman’s onscreen deity is embraceable by anyone who believes in a creator and sustainer of life. Christian. Muslim. Jew. Buddhist. Even co-star Sally Kirkland, an ordained minister in the Church of The Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness, finds value in the movie’s spirituality. "This film can get people thinking about spirit," says Kirkland, who plays a waitress. "Spirit exists in everybody no matter what race, creed, color, circumstance or lifestyle." The script seems to agree. During a chat with Bruce, God alludes to the time He shared His power in similar fashion with Ghandi.

• sexual content: Bruce and Grace live together, but aren’t married. It’s obvious that sex is part of their relationship based on several sly comments and one "encounter": In preparation for sex, an all-powerful Bruce sheds his clothes (down to briefs) while Grace primps in the bathroom. Before she can join him, he divinely pleasures her from the other room (the audience watches as she is overcome with ecstasy). Passing a girl on the street, Bruce creates a gust that blows her dress up, revealing thong underwear. At a party, a co-worker makes a play for Bruce in the bedroom and is caught kissing him. A TV commercial advertises a CD containing the song "Bruce So Horny." Wisecracks also involve pornography and unconventional sex.

Read on...
http://www.family.org/pplace/pi/films/a0026108.html


Another take on this thought:

Jim Carrey returns to comic form in Bruce Almighty, a wildly funny film that might have gotten its inspiration from the Joan Osborn song, "What If God Was One of Us?"

Bruce Nolan (Jim Carrey, The Majestic) gets no respect. He's the Rodney Dangerfield of TV news reporting, stuck in Buffalo, NY doing wacky, human interest spots that make people laugh. He'd much rather be doing serious news if they'd only give him the chance.

After a particularly bad day when he learns that the station's anchor position has been given to a rival (Steven Carell, Watching Ellie), he loses his cool on the air, loses his job, gets mugged and has his car vandalized. Nothing like what Job endured but Bruce has yet to develop Job's believing. He immediately begins to rail against God, blaming Him for all his troubles.

Guess who was listening? Bruce is summoned to appear before God (Morgan Freeman, Levity), a white-suited custodian in an empty warehouse, to hear an interesting proposition. Since Bruce doesn't approve of how God handles things, He's decided to transfer all His power and responsibilities over to the news reporter to see if he can do the job any better. There are only two rules: He can't tell anyone he's God and he can't mess with free will.

Omnipotence and a wacky disposition are a dangerous combination. It isn't long before Bruce is using his new powers to advance his own ambitions and desires, with little regard to how it affects others around him. His antics predictably lead to problems, not only for himself but for the entire world. Bruce eventually comes to realize the errors of his selfish ways but will he be able to undo the damage he's caused?

For those who, upon hearing of this film project, expressed concern that Jim Carrey was making a comedy that would mock God or Christian faith, we can happily set those concerns aside. Bruce Almighty is very respectful of God and the relationship between God and man. The fact that the director, Tom Shadyac (Patch Adams), is a practicing Christian certainly helps. And the casting of Morgan Freeman doesn't hurt. He brings a certain gravitas to just about every role he plays and as God, he displays the patient, loving wisdom of a heavenly Father with dignity and authority.

While Bruce Almighty is the funniest film of the year thus far (the scene where the almighty Bruce sabotages his rival's on air performance is absolutely hysterical), I should caution that the film is rated PG-13 because it liberally uses profanity, sexual references, and crudity for its punch lines. Many Christians will opt not to see this film because of these elements and that is certainly understandable. But it is a pity because the spiritual messages being delivered by the film are ones which Christians will especially recognize and support.

There are many such messages that I could select as examples. The most poignant moment in the film for me was when Bruce, knowing he is on the verge of losing his girlfriend (Jennifer Aniston, Friends) due to his selfish behavior, tries to use his godly powers to force her to love him. It is a funny and yet painfully sad moment as he realizes that her free will allows her to choose where she directs her love and that he cannot force it from her despite his omnipotence.

Isn't that the case with God? Above all else, what He desires from us is our love. He has given everything to us, including His son, so we might enter into a loving relationship with Him. And yet how many people reject Him or withhold their love from Him? Despite this, His only response is to continue to love us.

We love him, because he first loved us. 1 John 4:19 (KJV)
The only reason we are able to love God at all is because of His love and forgiving nature. It is a love and nature which we can not only experience but also adopt as our own.
http://www.christiancritic.com/mov2003/brucealm.htm

More links:
http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/bruce_almighty.htm

http://www.praize.com/cgi-bin/members/pub9990070908898.cgi?itemid=9970129491392&action=viewad&categoryid=9990070908919&page=1&placeonpage=2&totaldisplayed=10

http://www.ccmcom.com/features/fullstory_cont.asp?Id=2280

http://www.christiananswers.net/spotlight/movies/2003/brucealmighty.html

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Posted by Primoa1970 (Member # 1016) on :
 
Bottom line: Touch not the unclean thing....and come out from among them.
Enough said. Stay away from this movie.
 
Posted by mikerica (Member # 1499) on :
 
Well I finally saw the movie today and it's....funny [happyhappy]
The movie really did have a good point to it. Yes, it had some "sinful" things if you consider yourself holy than holy but overall, it was funny and it made me realize even more how smart and powerful God really is and how EVERYTHING has a purpose and a reason for its being.

[thumbsup2] Erica
 
Posted by helpforhomeschoolers (Member # 15) on :
 
I have left out the "its all good" conclusion so popular with the focus on the family movie reviews... but here are some of the details; we will each have to make the decision whether this movie is appropriate for us as a Christian family to spend our time and money on, but here are some things to help you decide...

Here is some of the events of life as Bruce walks in God's shoes...

• sexual content: Bruce and Grace live together, but aren’t married. It’s obvious that sex is part of their relationship based on several sly comments and one "encounter": In preparation for sex, an all-powerful Bruce sheds his clothes (down to briefs) while Grace primps in the bathroom. Before she can join him, he divinely pleasures her from the other room (the audience watches as she is overcome with ecstasy). Passing a girl on the street, Bruce creates a gust that blows her dress up, revealing thong underwear. At a party, a co-worker makes a play for Bruce in the bedroom and is caught kissing him. A TV commercial advertises a CD containing the song "Bruce So Horny." Wisecracks also involve pornography and unconventional sex.

• violent content: Street thugs beat up Bruce and smash his car window. After being denied an apology, payback involves an animal emerging from the rectum of one of the hoods (implied) and then jumping back in. A swarm of bees attacks the other gang members. A sportscaster is knocked cold by a champagne cork. Bruce smashes his car into a pole. Later he gets hit by a truck. A chaotic uprising finds doomsday prophets and rioters clashing in the streets.

• crude or profane language: Several exclamatory uses of the Lord’s name are joined by just over a dozen other profanities, including several s-words and uses of "a--hole." There’s also one f-word. Bruce gives a pompous colleague a series of middle fingers in a creative manner just begging to be imitated by young viewers.

• drug and alcohol content: Bruce and Grace drink beer at home and wine at a restaurant. Bruce pours drinks at a party. To get even with a disrespectful reporter, Bruce miraculously fills the guy’s news van with marijuana when police are present.

• other negative elements: Some bathroom gags and gross humor involve flatulence, a nose-picking baker and a dog that urinates on various home furnishings.
 
Posted by Praise Adonai (Member # 1501) on :
 
I saw this movie with my wife Erica, who started this thread, and I have some observations on it. Remember that Jesus said "Judge not,and ye shall not be judged" Luke 6:37. This movie has a message. What is wrong with reaching the un-believer on their own level. We, as Christians, speak all the time about how movies and music promote the devil, whether it is implied or not. What is wrong with turning the tables and having a movie with the underlying message of God?? We serve a just God, who is also loving and forgiving and WANTS us to have a relationship with him. That is a hard concept to grasp, especially for the un-saved. They are always taught that God is just waiting to "strike them down" for their sin. This movie shows a few things that the world needs to see:
1. It's not easy being God, no mere human could
do the job.
2. God's powers are for the good of mankind, not
one persons advancement.
3. God cannot and will not answer every prayer.
Again, for the good of mankind.
4. You NEED to pray.
5. You need to live outside of yourself and live
for God.
6. God does not take blasphemy lightly.
7. God's will be done.

As you know, the movie does uses some worldly views in order to make its point. What we need to remember is that there are people who never step foot into church, dont know anything about the bible and only know what they have been told about The Lord. I know this to be true, because I was once one of those people. Those are the people that God wants to reach. As you know, The Lord uses many mediums to do his work and this may just be one of them. I say, God knows what is in your heart. If you love the Lord and serve him on a daily basis he sees it. You can see this movie and know the good and the bad. We, as Christians, should rejoice in the fact that the way the world is today, where even mentioning the name of the Lord can get you fired at work, kicked out of school, etc... someone stepped up and made a movie that reflects God in a positive light.
 
Posted by MAC (Member # 47) on :
 
Another movie filling your an empty spot.!
 
Posted by Amber (Member # 41) on :
 
There is something to be said for the average person who is not a Bible reader, who thinks they know God. This movie (that I recently saw) has some very good points to make to an unexpecting person who is looking for God.
No one ever said you had to be perfect to get God's grace. This movie brings into the conventional world of sin, that God does see, hear and respond to us.
We stepped out of the theater while the 'love' scene took place, and had a chance to speak to an employee who was watching the show. But God isn't too busy to help someone like an employee at a movie theater ask about faith.
We all need to remember that sin blinds, and that ANY opportunity to share God is what we should be looking for, not a perfect world. It's lost to sin and suffering.
 
Posted by mikerica (Member # 1499) on :
 
mac

What are you trying to say? I don't understand remarks like that.

Erica [updown]
 
Posted by mikerica (Member # 1499) on :
 
Ok folks. Like I said, I saw the movie and I thought it was great, regardles of Mac's smart *** opinion.

Thanks to all and God Bless, especially you Mac. You need it the most [roll on floor] [biglaugha]

Erica [youpi]
 
Posted by wparr (Member # 891) on :
 
How can someone who is Born Again even consider watching a movie that trashes GOD Almighty?

Where is the Fear Of The LORD???

God is Holy and not to be mocked

I don't think that God is going to get angry at you for being amused at something. Take the movie as it is intended...as entertainment.

What is going on in the "Church" today? I don't consider trashing the Character of God to be entertainment?

Well I finally saw the movie today and it's....funny The movie really did have a good point to it. Yes, it had some "sinful" things if you consider yourself holy than holy but overall, it was funny and it made me realize even more how smart and powerful God really is and how EVERYTHING has a purpose and a reason for its being.

A little sin is OK? SIN IS SIN. No measuring how big or little. Missing the mark is missing the mark. It doesn't matter how much you missed the mark by ,only that you missed it. DEAD IS DEAD. You can't be a little dead. Do you comprehend Sin? I think many "Christians" don't understand sin from God's point of view.

This has me so outraged. I seriously question one's salvation, or dedication to God, who defends this trashing of The Blood Of Jesus.

Don't you thick headed people understand what Christ did on our behalf? What sacrifice he made? And this is how you repay it?

Read some scripture, study the attributes of God, then try to defend this garbage you call "entertainment"


Isa 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple.
Isa 6:2 Above him stood the seraphim: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
Isa 6:3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is Jehovah of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
Isa 6:4 And the foundations of the thresholds shook at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.
Isa 6:5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, Jehovah of hosts.


Exo 34:4 And he hewed two tables of stone like unto the first; and Moses rose up early in the morning, and went up unto mount Sinai, as Jehovah had commanded him, and took in his hand two tables of stone.
Exo 34:5 And Jehovah descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of Jehovah.
Exo 34:6 And Jehovah passed by before him, and proclaimed, Jehovah, Jehovah, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abundant in lovingkindness and truth,
Exo 34:7 keeping lovingkindness for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin; and that will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, upon the third and upon the fourth generation.
Exo 34:8 And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped.
Exo 34:9 And he said, If now I have found favor in thy sight, O Lord, let the Lord, I pray thee, go in the midst of us; for it is a stiffnecked people; and pardon our iniquity and our sin, and take us for thine inheritance.


This is no joking matter to be taken lightly. We are to be led by The Holy Spirit. Can you honestly say The Holy Spirit would lead you to watch and defend this movie?
 
Posted by MAC (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mikerica:
Ok folks. Like I said, I saw the movie and I thought it was great, regardles of Mac's smart *** opinion.

Thanks to all and God Bless, especially you Mac. You need it the most [roll on floor] [biglaugha]

Erica [youpi]

Thank you.....Erica for the blessing

But you see you when there because you hade a desire to see it 'Right' so you when and fullful it... :>)
 
Posted by Praise Adonai (Member # 1501) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wparr:
How can someone who is Born Again even consider watching a movie that trashes GOD Almighty?
A little sin is OK? SIN IS SIN. No measuring how big or little. Missing the mark is missing the mark. It doesn't matter how much you missed the mark by ,only that you missed it. DEAD IS DEAD. You can't be a little dead. Do you comprehend Sin? I think many "Christians" don't understand sin from God's point of view.

This has me so outraged. I seriously question one's salvation, or dedication to God, who defends this trashing of The Blood Of Jesus.

Don't you thick headed people understand what Christ did on our behalf? What sacrifice he made? And this is how you repay it?

Since we are quoting scriptures, Let me just quote this one. Oh, I am sure you are familiar with James 4:11-12

Don't speak evil against each other, my dear brothers and sisters. If you criticize each other and condemn each other, then you are criticizing and condemning God's law. But you are not a judge who can decide whether the law is right or wrong. Your job is to obey it.God alone, who made the law, can rightly judge among us. He alone has the power to save or to destroy. So what right do you have to condemn your neighbor?

I will leave it at that.
 
Posted by msl (Member # 1554) on :
 
this isn't an easy issue, spiritual liberty comes into play, discernment, as well as the people involved...could this moive be something that creates discussion amongst a seeking friend? is it profitable to see it with them so you can discuss the good the bad and the ugly of this entertainment? is going with a group of christian friends allowed?

I had some of the junior highs from my youth group ask if they could go see it as part of a youth activity... i consdiered it IF i could have opportunity todiscuss things wiht them after... sometimes i think we need to find examples we can use to help us show and teach others discernment... but it is a hard thing to do, i relally beleive a lot about dicernment is caught not taught...although i do believe there a re principles of discerment that can be taught... bottom line i think a lot of christians have very little discernment capability and attribute liberty to issues they shouldn't be, i also think a number of christians lose the opportunity to be salt and light and take advantage of opportunites to tie real truth into a cultural event or entertainment opportunity that is presented as a bridge to teaching or modelling deeper spiritual principles...

and then all that has to be balanced against our own sprititual walk where phil 4:8 comes into play and we guard what we let into our minds for our own spiritual well being...all too many people start off trying to be informed about certain areas of sin...ie porno and end up trapped in it much deeper than they should be...


it is a tight rope walk...not easy...but needed...
 
Posted by helpforhomeschoolers (Member # 15) on :
 
quote:
all too many people start off trying to be informed about certain areas of sin...ie porno and end up trapped in it much deeper than they should be...

Righteousness is unleavened bread; a little leaven leavens the whole lump.

Proverbs 22:3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.
 
Posted by njclary (Member # 4) on :
 
There is no need for recriminations here. As I noted at the beginning, Movies like these do Blaspheme God, and it is done with contempt or new age thinking. Is Carey a Christian, I doubt it, much of his thought process is new age.

But all the explanations can go for naught, as we will justify any action we deem plausible.
Many movies are funny, and I have no doubt that this one is too. But at who's expense?

I don't condemn anyone who goes to see it, It's their perogitive[sic] and their sense of justification. I just ask, is it necessary?

God Bless

Joel
 
Posted by Demonexecutor (Member # 1516) on :
 
Njclary,
You haven't seen the movie, have you. If you had, you'd see that it does not blaspheme God. This movies shows that it's not as easy to be God as some people may think. Yes, Bruce didn't do what he should have with the powers but that's the point. Humans couldn't handle God's powers. Everyone here be honest with yourself. If you had God's powers for a week wouldn't you do a few things for yourself too. That's why God is in charge and not us. Despite the previews, this movie does have a good message.

Marcia
 
Posted by wparr (Member # 891) on :
 
This movie does not accurately portry the nature and character of God.

So the question to you is this. Is misportraying the nature of God blasphemy?

Would you bring a nonbeliever, or a baby Christian to this movie and say "thats pretty much what God is like"?

Does this movie cast God in a way that brings Him glory and honor?

Were you "led by the Spirit" to watch this movie?

Are you using "spiritual discernment" in your defending of this movie?

Anything that is not done in faith is sin.
 
Posted by Chuck_Slotter (Member # 1632) on :
 
I won't be going to see this movie for many reasons. The writers of the movie are evangelizing people to sin and I'd rather be evangelizing people to God.

I could imagine watching this movie and I thought,"What if I think about a Holy God and laugh at God?" What if this movie offends God? What if I offend God?

If a puppy dog hangs out with a bunch of wolves, does the puppy become like the wolves or do the wolves become domesticated?

If I put sin into my system, what will come out of me?

If I accept sin this one time, will I accept sin tomorrow? Will sin be easier to accept tomorrow?

The Bible says not to be conformed to this world but to be transformed by the renewing of your mind. If I see this movie, I'll be more transformed to this world instead of transformed to Jesus Christ.

Chuck Slotter
 
Posted by art (Member # 6) on :
 
If a puppy dog hangs out with a bunch of wolves, does the puppy become like the wolves or do the wolves become domesticated?

Good point Chuck!
 
Posted by msl (Member # 1554) on :
 
i realize the point trying to be made, but where does being salt and light and being IN the world but not OF the world fit in here... christians can lead too sheltered a life and not have any impact on the world around them, be so naive of what's in the world that they just can't related to unchurched folks...
 
Posted by wparr (Member # 891) on :
 
leading to sheltered of a life???

Not going to see an unGodly movie is leading to sheltered of a life?

So should we do drugs, go to gay bars, and watch porn movies to "understand" the lost??
 
Posted by art (Member # 6) on :
 
Amen , Wparr
 
Posted by Cameron (Member # 1090) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by msl:
i realize the point trying to be made, but where does being salt and light and being IN the world but not OF the world fit in here... christians can lead too sheltered a life and not have any impact on the world around them, be so naive of what's in the world that they just can't related to unchurched folks...

I think what msl is trying to say is that if a Christian shelters him/herself from the world too much, he/she will not have any influence for the Kingdom of God. We can't fulfil the Great Commission if we don't "go ye INTO all the world.." In case anyone might take that the wrong way, I DON'T mean that we should do the things of the world, but we cannot be totally separated from it. I realize this has no bearing on whether it's right to see Bruce Almighty.
I pose a question: People will be either for or against seeing this movie, and I don't think their opinions will be changed. Therefore is it really worth arguing about? God wants his children to live in harmony with each other, not squabbling over trifling matters. (incidently, this is precisely what Satan DOES want).
 
Posted by msl (Member # 1554) on :
 
thanks that is what i was trying to say, not that we do drugs etc...obviously we shouldn't do things that are sin, obviously entertainment falls into a liberty/discernment area at times and thus discussions like this thread, and as was already said above my thoughts were more a genreal response to some posts i have read here that, imo, are not giving enough validity to the principle that christians need to be aware(not participate) but have an idea of the world around them so they can be effective witnesses and not so sheltered from information(not experiences) of the world so that they can find common ground to connect with nonbeleivers as a bridge to discuss spiritual mattters...
 
Posted by helpforhomeschoolers (Member # 15) on :
 
We are light and salt; light that obliterates the darkness, and salt that preserves the good things and world of God while living right smack in the middle of the darkness!

We are light and salt, not by looking like the darkness or acting like the lost, or doing what the world does; but by being examples of God's love.

Why does this mean being called to holiness? because anything less than holiness is going to perish!!

The disicples lived in a time that was ugly! the world was full of paganism, false gods, idolotry, sexual sin, barbarism, witchcraft, and more; but they did not participate in those things; they didnt either try to change those things for society as a whole; beacause those things can only be changed by the power of God in the individual heart. We dont see them trying to sensor or dictate to society, we do see them preaching freedom to the captives; and we do see them living Holy as HE is Holy inspite of the world around them.

Yes, Jesus was found eating and drinking with sinners, but he was never found sinning, or giving value by the use of his time or his money to sin.

When the merchants made the temple a house of worldlyness; he through out the merchants' tables.

We are NOW the temple; and we must throw out unclean things from our mouths, from our minds, from before our eyes, from our hearts.

This is IN the world, but NOT OF the world.

Did Paul patronize a bother in Christ Alexander by continuing to associate with him who made idols of silver for money? NO! He rubuked him. And then he eventually turned him over to the devil so he could learn not to blashpheme! Surely, Alexander had an opportunity to witness the Gospel to the pagans who bought his idols, but this is not God's way.

We do not witness, by being like the world. We witness by being light and salt before the world. THe world has no light and is not salt!

We are not friends but enemies with the world! We do not love the things of the World, but the things of God.

So I guess the question becomes this... Is this movie a thing of God? Does it speak of God's holiness and our need to be Holy as He is Holy; Does it speak of freedom from Sin by the shed blood of Christ? Does it speak of freedom from bondage through the cross? Does it call the sinner to repentence?

Did you love the movie?

Paul said I have desired to know nothing of you except Christ and himcrucified!

1 Corinthians 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

This is our interest with the world! This is our friendship with the world. The spreading of the Gospel. We are in the world for and with a PURPOSE! HIS PURPOSE! Everything that we do, we should do for this purpose. "TO LIVE IS CHRIST!"

We are not here to be entertained or amused; we are not here to enjoy the pleasure of the world. We are here to set captives free!

This does not mean our life is not glorious and full of Joy and peace, and hapiness! My Lord, knows I can smell pine in the air and find my face streaming with tears in joyful awe of the creation of my Father in Heaven. The Life of the Christian is JOYOUS! Content! Blessed! My cup runneth over!

But not because I go to a funny movie; or eat a fantastic gourmet meal; or buy a fantastic outfit, or get a faster car; but because HE IS OUR JOY! Our Joy is full in Him and we complete in HIM and the world has nothing in us!

So much of Chrisitanity is not light and Not Salt, and NOT Happy! Because the world has too much in Chrisitanity! What fellowship has light with darkness???? We dress like the world dresses, go where the world goes, listen to what the world listens to, read what the world writes, fill our eyes and hearts with the things of the world and wonder where our JOY went! We replaced it with the things of the world and tried to twist scripture to justify our flesh and our wants.

Come YE out of the World and BE YE seperate! Set Apart... to GOD! There is found JOY unspeakable; Peace with out understanding; Blessing with out repentence.
 
Posted by Cameron (Member # 1090) on :
 
That's NOT what I'm saying!!! I mean that we cannot separate ourselves from the world and concentrate on being holy at the expense of the salvation of others. What do you think God would prefer, that we live "perfect" Christian lives and not have anything to do with the world and never bring anyone else into the Kingdom, or that we go out and get our hands dirty and reap the harvest?
 
Posted by msl (Member # 1554) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cameron:
That's NOT what I'm saying!!! I mean that we cannot separate ourselves from the world and concentrate on being holy at the expense of the salvation of others. What do you think God would prefer, that we live "perfect" Christian lives and not have anything to do with the world and never bring anyone else into the Kingdom, or that we go out and get our hands dirty and reap the harvest?

exactly, it could'nt be a "perfect" christian life if we aren't in the world sharing christ with them and to do that you need to be able to be freinds with them and have some common(nonsin) areas to build that relationship on, and such things as world events,, topics that stem from movies etc CAN at times fit into those areas to be bridge builders...

Let me say that after researching the movie more, i personally wouldn't go, it doesn't do anything for me, however if a nonchristian friend of mine asked me about it or even asked if i would go with him, i would...why, because despite the fact the movie isn't 100% truthful in reflecting the character of God, i am discerning enough to personally filter out(via the Spirit within me) the untruth, and to then seize on those areas as points of discussion with my friend to direct them towards the Truth.

because of the discernment factor this movie can fit that critieria...i am not saying that if a nonchristain asked me to go to a porn film with them i would...some areas are certainly off limits and have no redeemable feature as well as how it effects my own testimony, holiness and ability to use as a bridge for relationship building...
 
Posted by msl (Member # 1554) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cameron:
That's NOT or that we go out and get our hands dirty and reap the harvest?

i do disagree with this aspect...i think you can go out and be salt in the world and not get dirty with sin... if we are gettign dirty with sin then we are not doing what God intends for us to do.

i am not saying the ends(building relationships with nonchristians) justifies the means(sin ful choices etc) but i get alarmed when i see a push by the church(or who.whatever) to isolate yourself...YES we must seek to live holy lives, YES we must avoid sinning, but equally YES we must be communicators of the gospel, and the most effective way to do that is to build relationships...certainly we will not be able to relate(nor should we) on every level as a nonbeleiver...however Jesus, Paul and others took everyday, societal iteams and issues and brought them around to a place of bringing truth into it, they related to where the people were at to help bring them to a higher place, a place close to God in their understandings and experience.

It is a tough balance to find, no doubt, that is why this issue and thread could go on forever...and i don't want anyone to think i am condoning sinful choices in the name of evangelism... it is just that we need to make the gospel culturally relevant(not changing the gospel to FIT the culture, heaven forbid) but make it something that hits folks where they are at, with the tools, experiences etc that are avaialbe for this culture and age. Christ IS relevatn for this society and culture, but we have to bring Him into it...

[Smile] [Smile]
 
Posted by Cameron (Member # 1090) on :
 
By "getting our hands dirty" I don't mean actually sinning. I obviously cannot express my argument clearly enough to be understood so I am leaving this alone. What I mean (last attmept) is that we should not close our eyes, stick our fingers in our ears, turn our back and ignore the world just so we don't have anything to do with sin, instead of going out and risking temptation to reach the lost. If anyone agrees with me and can put this in words that can be understood, please do so.
 
Posted by msl (Member # 1554) on :
 
i understood what you were saying other than the "getting hands dirty" which i tohught could be interpreted ad "okay to sin" so i clarified that in my posts, i do agree with you for sure in what you are saying...
 
Posted by Shala (Member # 1675) on :
 
We saw it last week and I have to say that I didnt come out of it with a good feeling. Somethings I saw in the movie were good and I thought maybe it would make non believers think about the paths they are following...but in general I left feeling unsatisfied about the whole movie. My husband was very surprised because he really thought I would love it. He is an 'on the fence' [Frown] person...

But I was disappointed...I think that there were a few things in there that really offended me and I was like God would never do that and they portrayed that the wrong way.

Yes, its just a movie but if you are a Christian and are going to make a movie like this in the hopes of making someone believe in the Truth wouldnt you do your best to make sure its accurate?
 
Posted by Shala (Member # 1675) on :
 
and I just wanted to apologize..I just saw that this hadnt been posted on since the 19th! Oops! [updown]
 
Posted by Salti (Member # 650) on :
 
Considering my lifetime total of movie watching is less than some people's weekly watching, I am probably not very qualified to speak on this matter. But for the sake of discussion and this being a pretty big topic among Christians lately, I did some research and will share a few thoughts.

It seems to me that the intention of this film was not to mock God, but to create more of a spiritual awareness and cause people to think more. Unfortunately, it seems those who did the writing lack understanding of Who God is. They wrote it based on a society that wears a Judeo-Christian label as partof its culture but simply just tends to believe "there is something bigger" rather than knowing what that something (or rather "someone") is.

Most films out there are not edifying to us or glorifying to God. In all things we should be prayerful about our actions and our witness. I can't see how this one film gets all the attention and debate and much much worse is ignored. I get offended when a movie inaccurately portrays God or promotes itself as christian but has a less than edifying message. But I do give thanks that there are movies out there that cause unbelievers to at least give thought to the spiritual.

Would I watch the movie? no. Would I tell you not to? no. That is a decision that you need to seek the Lord in and his purpose. Consider what your motive in it is and whether it glorifies God. Who knows, it could very well be in His plan for you to go there and to lead someone to Christ at the end of that movie. But it might not be. If you keep your eyes on Him and seek His will in all things, you wont go wrong.
 
Posted by sunnyd (Member # 1709) on :
 
Here's a thought to this that I have not seen posted.
We all talk to God, right? We all seek His guidance and His "ok" on matters, right? How about if we ask God if He would like us to go to see this show or any other show for that matter? I mean ask and WAIT for His response. I would think that that is what we should all be doing at all times anyways? [Prayer]
Sorry, but I am new here and just saw this post and felt led to add this message. [type]
 
Posted by gisc (Member # 1727) on :
 
hey guys!
you know what in my opinion you just need to chill out! The film is meant for entertainment and i think its great! Yes it may be construed as wrong but i dont think so. i think it makes a good point especially near the end about praying and how you should pray for from the heart! And after all God is fun isn't he?
i think people who tell you,you are blasphemous are people who are restricted by religious laws!

You know what chill out just because you watched that film isn't going to make God fall to pieces!! He is still on the throne ruler of all and who knows people who have watched that film might just think about praying next time they are in a crisis! Carry on enjoying your life and going for god 100%.
 
Posted by phaze (Member # 1688) on :
 
I think the smartest bet is to avoid the movie, and just listen to the moral of the story as explained in this message board.

I think it would have been great if Hollywood could make a nice movie portraying God and Christians in a positive light, but apparently they refuse to do so. This could have been an opportunity.

Maybe it wouldn't be profitable. Maybe it would offend their anti-family values. I don't know why, but it is a shame.
 
Posted by Richard Hawkeye Hawkins (Member # 1186) on :
 
Its because all the Christian film makers dont tend to like to make films which actually have a chance at being successful as many tend to edge toward the tacky and cheap however have a Godly message although arent enjoyable to watch due to how badly they are filmed, edited,etc from the examples i have seen.
 
Posted by Damaris (Member # 1742) on :
 
i thought it was a great movie: i wasn't offended by it at all. the thing that is strange to me is this message board: how many hundreds of films are made that have nothing to do with God, and probably offend him, and yet we don't write messages about them and start fights about not going and seeing any of the other movies.

Instead, we pick the one that actually had a good message. This was just another fictitious movie about something that is real-- there are millions of them in the world. At least this one didn't end with God picking up an AK 47 and blasting everyone away: or the Holy Ghost being turned into the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.

I know two people who saw the movie and then started asking questions about God, and I don't think I'll hear of anyone who saw the movie and then TURNED AWAY from God; so therefore, i don't think we have anything to worry about.

most of my atheist friends don't have a problem with God-- they have a problem with Christians. They don't see any reason to seek God out because in order to do so they have to 'hang out' with people like us-- who freak out over every little thing that may or may not be 'unrighteous'.

i loved the movie; i thought it was hilarious and that it had a really good message and had some good acting, which doesn't happen a whole lot. I don't think that anyone saw the movie and then said, "Wow, I didn't know that God was a janitor..." or "Hey, did you know that God could just take a vacation any day, whenever he wanted to?" Because most people realize that the movie is fictitious. I don't think anyone thinks it was actually based on the Bible, or that it was meaning to be the Truth.

seriously. stuff like this really irks me; because for all the people that get all worked up over issues like this, that's how many souls that won't be won over to God because we can't accomodate them. Instead we just come off as Gestapo-esque Spanish Inquistion types, and that doesn't help anyone, including God.
 




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