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Posted by lookingfortruth (Member # 15697) on :
 
Ezekiel
25 And you, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,

26 Thus says the Lord GOD; Remove the turban, and take off the crown: this shall not remain the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.

27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he comes whose right it is; and I will give it to him.

31 And I will pour out my indignation upon you, I will blow against you in the fire of my wrath, and deliver you into the hand of brutal men, skilful to destroy.

32 You shall be for fuel to the fire; your blood shall be in the midst of the land; you shall be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population


[BooHoo]

Anyone agree or not?
 
Posted by WildB (Member # 2917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lookingfortruth:
Ezekiel
25 And you, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,

26 Thus says the Lord GOD; Remove the turban, and take off the crown: this shall not remain the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.

27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he comes whose right it is; and I will give it to him.

31 And I will pour out my indignation upon you, I will blow against you in the fire of my wrath, and deliver you into the hand of brutal men, skilful to destroy.

32 You shall be for fuel to the fire; your blood shall be in the midst of the land; you shall be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population


[BooHoo]

Anyone agree or not?

Your title is WRONG!

Edit to correct to the text!
" profane wicked PRINCE of Israel"

Not talking against the LAND!

AND you kinda MISSED this verse.

28 And thou, son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning the Ammonites, and concerning their reproach; even say thou, The sword, the sword is drawn: for the slaughter it is furbished, to consume because of the glittering:

YOU ARE GUILTY OF ADDING AND SUBTRACTING!

-> Revelation 22, v-18 and 19

STUDY- This end time Prophecy.

Psalms 83
1 Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.
2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
9 Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison:
10 Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth.
11 Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna:
12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.

13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind.
14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;
15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.
16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD.


17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish:
18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

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Posted by lookingfortruth (Member # 15697) on :
 
WildB,
What was the purpose of your post? posted June 16, 2018 08:17 AM ?

Below is a list of things His children must do to get his grace--- at the bottom I ask you a question and all I ask is that you answer it honestly in your own words.

(Mal 3:5 KJV) And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.

(Deu 1:16 KJV) And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

(Deu 10:19 KJV) Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Deu 24:19 KJV) When thou cuttest down thine harvest in thy field, and hast forgot a sheaf in the field, thou shalt not go again to fetch it: it shall be for the stranger , for the fatherless, and for the widow: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hands.

(Deu 24:20 KJV) When thou beatest thine olive tree, thou shalt not go over the boughs again: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.

(Deu 24:21 KJV) When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow

(Jer 7:6 KJV) If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:

(Jer 22:3 KJV) Thus saith the LORD; Execute ye judgment and righteousness, and deliver the spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor: and do no wrong, do no violence to the stranger, the fatherless, nor the widow, neither shed innocent blood in this place.

(Ezek 22:7 KJV) In thee have they set light by father and mother: in the midst of thee have they dealt by oppression with the stranger: in thee have they vexed the fatherless and the widow.

(Zec 7:10 KJV) And oppress not the widow, nor the fatherless, the stranger, nor the poor; and let none of you imagine evil against his brother in your heart.

(Exo 22:21 KJV) Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Exo 23:9 KJV) Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

Lev 25:35 KJV) And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.

WildB,

My question to you is simple enough---

Are the Israeli’s of today obeying the Lord’s directives or not-?
 
Posted by WildB (Member # 2917) on :
 
It is rather silly that the very same people that DEMAND the death of millions of UNBORN AMERICANS have any say at all about another persons kids? That's THEIR LAW TOO! Killing the UNBORN AMERICAN. I don't hear them accusing Trump of MURDER because he will not do an Obama Policy slight of hand and EO them a DOCA against that Law?

CNN/MSNBC's attempt to Fault Trump as an abuser of children at the border is sad. Let me remind you all that when a parent robs a store, gets a DUI, murders someone, or commits any other crime...are those parents separated from their children? Do the children have to go to prison too or do criminals with children get exempted from getting arrested?

IT IS A CRIME TO CRASH THE BORDER!

International Law says that Mexico was to process them?
What ever happened to that? No wonder the UN is not touching this.
YET!
The UN gets into Israels border business to protect the KNOWN Terrorist?

Building and defending the wall solves both problems.

BUILD THE WALL!
Obama Inc for GITMO!

Democrats and Republicans both voted for TRUMP!
 
Posted by WildB (Member # 2917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lookingfortruth:


WildB,

My question to you is simple enough---

Are the Israeli’s of today obeying the Lord’s directives or not-?

Romans 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.


Also- Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


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Posted by lookingfortruth (Member # 15697) on :
 
WildB,

I believe the right of a woman to carry a baby to birth is her choice to make and none other. The day you tell a woman in a hospital that if she agrees to have this child you will adopt it; is the day I will listen to your unyielding dogma.
 
Posted by WildB (Member # 2917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lookingfortruth:
WildB,

I believe the right of a woman to carry a baby to birth is her choice to make and none other. The day you tell a woman in a hospital that if she agrees to have this child you will adopt it; is the day I will listen to your unyielding dogma.

Well I believe that the rapist is the one that needs to be killed, not the child.

And since my Tax's are paying for her choice to kill the innocent. I will fight that choice tooth, fang and claw.

Your haphazard attitude is what brings judgment upon a Nation.

Leviticus 18

(KILLING THE UN-BORN AMERICAN)
21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
(GAYMONITE RELIGION CELEBRATED)
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
(PETA ANIMAL SEX/LOVE EMBRACED)
23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

24 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
27 (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;)

28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.

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Posted by lookingfortruth (Member # 15697) on :
 
WildB,

Israel, Isaac, Sarah, Abraham and Rebekah were all buried in Canaan which is beyond the river and not in the land now claimed as “Israel”.

Explain this to me-?

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Posted by WildB (Member # 2917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lookingfortruth:
WildB,

Israel, Isaac, Sarah, Abraham and Rebekah were all buried in Canaan which is beyond the river and not in the land now claimed as “Israel”.

Explain this to me-?

[cool_shades]

The phrase “from the Nile to the Euphrates” includes a much bigger area than Dan to Be’er Sheva.

https://theisraelbible.com/biblical-boundaries-land-israel/
 
Posted by WildB (Member # 2917) on :
 
Abraham Arrives in Canaan-
Abram enters Canaan and encamps by “the Oak of Moreh” near Shechem (at this point we are reminded: “And the Canaanite was then in the land”), where God appears to him and pronounces, “To your offspring I will give this land.” However, neither Abram nor the reader is told to what “this land” refers exactly.

God articulates the promise to Abram once more in chapter 15, the strange story of “the covenant between the cuts” (ברית בין הבתרים). After setting up an array of cut-up animals, Abram falls asleep. In his sleep he has a vision of God, telling him of his (Abram’s) descendants’ slavery and release, and ending with,

On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying: To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the river Euphrates; the land of the Kenites, the Kenizzites, the Kadmonites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgashites, and the Jebusites” (Gen. 15: 18-21).

God’s promise of the land has now been defined within specific parameters – both geographic and ethnic. Nevertheless, these parameters are still far from clear. From an ethnic point of view, the land is said to have been inhabited by a group of “nations” that come under the general heading of “Canaanite”. Who are the Canaanites? In fact, these “nations” of Canaan are listed about twenty times in the Bible, with the lists often differing from each other.
https://thetorah.com/abraham-goes-to-canaan/
 
Posted by lookingfortruth (Member # 15697) on :
 
WildB posts---------

And since my Tax's are paying for her choice to kill the innocent. I will fight that choice tooth, fang and claw.

WildB , I believe you do poses fangs and claws and with that, before you strike me in the back I must depart.

May you and yours have a great day and beyond

bye
 
Posted by lookingfortruth (Member # 15697) on :
 
Before leaving I have decided to make one more point. Everything the Lord promised came with conditions. A lot of the verses state “I will---” or “you will” which means if you do this or that God will in turn do this or that.

I believe the last verse is the one that sums it all up---

You shall be for fuel to the fire; your blood shall be in the midst of the land; you shall be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

The End
 
Posted by WildB (Member # 2917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lookingfortruth:
Before leaving I have decided to make one more point. Everything the Lord promised came with conditions. A lot of the verses state “I will---” or “you will” which means if you do this or that God will in turn do this or that.

I believe the last verse is the one that sums it all up---

You shall be for fuel to the fire; your blood shall be in the midst of the land; you shall be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

The End

These words "you will" in the text you post are to a "people" as it maters to the nation.


AND I believe this verse sums it all up as it maters to national security---

That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.
 
Posted by lookingfortruth (Member # 15697) on :
 
For those who have reading comprehension problems I have made "BOLD" who the lord was talking too.

Ezekiel
25 And you, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,

26 Thus says the Lord GOD; Remove the turban, and take off the crown: this shall not remain the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.

27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he comes whose right it is; and I will give it to him.

31 And I will pour out my indignation upon you (Israel), I will blow against you in the fire of my wrath, and deliver you into the hand of brutal men, skilful to destroy.

32 You (Israel) shall be for fuel to the fire; your blood shall be in the midst of the land; you shall be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population

the truth will set you free [clap2]
 
Posted by lookingfortruth (Member # 15697) on :
 
WildB, you can turn the tide, go out and have twelve (12) children or more.

just a suggestion [wave3]
 
Posted by lookingfortruth (Member # 15697) on :
 
Ezekiel
25 And you, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,

26 Thus says the Lord GOD; Remove the turban, and take off the crown: this shall not remain the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.

27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he comes whose right it is; and I will give it to him.

31 And I will pour out my indignation upon you (Israel), I will blow against you in the fire of my wrath, and deliver you into the hand of brutal men, skilful to destroy.

32 You shall be for fuel to the fire; your blood shall be in the midst of the land; you shall be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population
[BooHoo]

Anyone agree or not?
 
Posted by Carol Swenson (Member # 6929) on :
 
quote:
I believe the right of a woman to carry a baby to birth is her choice to make and none other. The day you tell a woman in a hospital that if she agrees to have this child you will adopt it; is the day I will listen to your unyielding dogma.
The woman has the choice to be wise and careful not to have an unwanted pregnancy. Beyond that:

Exodus 20:13 (NASB)
"You shall not murder.

This is not unyielding dogma, it is a commandment of God.

Your profile says you have put your faith in Christ. Grace is NOT a license to sin.

As for the Jewish population...

As of 2010, there were nearly 14 million Jews around the world. In 2050, the Jewish population is expected to number about 16 million. The share of the world’s population that is Jewish – 0.2% – is expected to remain about the same in 2050 as it was in 2010.

Projected Compound Annual Growth Rates for Jews Between Five-Year PeriodsOver the next few decades, Israel is projected to pass the United States and become, by a sizable margin, the country with the largest Jewish population.

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/04/02/jews/
 
Posted by Carol Swenson (Member # 6929) on :
 
Romans 11:11-21 (NASB)

11 I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous. 12 Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their fulfillment be! 13 But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14 if somehow I might move to jealousy my fellow countrymen and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are too.

17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in." 20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; 21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.

 
Posted by Carol Swenson (Member # 6929) on :
 
I don't know what point you're trying to make by referring to this ancient battle, but here is the truth of it. You left out important verses, and added the name of Israel to verse 31 where God is actually speaking to the Ammonites.

Ezekiel 21:25-32 (NASB)

25 'And you, O slain, wicked one, the prince of Israel, whose day has come, in the time of the punishment of the end,' 26 thus says the Lord GOD, 'Remove the turban and take off the crown; this will no longer be the same. Exalt that which is low and abase that which is high. 27 'A ruin, a ruin, a ruin, I will make it. This also will be no more until He comes whose right it is, and I will give it to Him.'

28 "And you, son of man, prophesy and say, 'Thus says the Lord GOD concerning the sons of Ammon and concerning their reproach,' and say: 'A sword, a sword is drawn, polished for the slaughter, to cause it to consume, that it may be like lightning— 29 while they see for you false visions, while they divine lies for you—to place you on the necks of the wicked who are slain, whose day has come, in the time of the punishment of the end.

30 'Return it to its sheath. In the place where you were created, in the land of your origin, I will judge you. 31 'I will pour out My indignation on you; I will blow on you with the fire of My wrath, and I will give you into the hand of brutal men, skilled in destruction. 32 'You will be fuel for the fire; your blood will be in the midst of the land. You will not be remembered, for I, the LORD, have spoken.'"


It was the Ammonites who became fuel for the fire.


God directs the army (Ezek. 21:18-27).

The pagan nations of that day used many forms of divination to discern the will of the gods, and Ezekiel pictured the Babylonian army at a fork in the road, trying to discover which way to go. Should they go to Rabbath, the capital of Ammon, and attack the Ammonites; or should they go to Jerusalem to attack the Jews? When the Lord told Ezekiel to "mark [appoint] two ways," he probably sketched on the ground a map of the roads looking like an inverted Y, and at the juncture stuck a "signpost" into the ground. (Remember his plan of Jerusalem drawn on a wet clay brick—4:1-8?) It was God's will that the army attack Jerusalem, so He overruled the soothsayers and diviners and made sure their decision was for Jerusalem. This doesn't mean that their system of divining was accurate or even proper, but that the Lord used it to accomplish His purposes.

Nebuchadnezzar decided to attack Jerusalem, so he appointed his captains and made his plans. The people in Jerusalem were hoping he would attack the Ammonites, and when the word came that Jerusalem was his target, they hoped the diviners would say they had made a mistake. But God was in control and there had been no mistake. King Zedekiah had sworn an oath of allegiance to Nebuchadnezzar and had broken it (21:23; 2 Kings 24:20), and Nebuchadnezzar would not stand for this kind of rebellion from a weak vassal state. Zedekiah's sins had finally caught up with him (Ezek. 21:24).

Ezekiel paused to give a special message to Zedekiah, whom he refuses to call a king but refers to as a prince. He calls him profane and wicked, a man who has committed iniquity and will suffer because of it. He would lose his crown and his throne. The day had arrived when God would turn everything upside down. Those who were "great and mighty" would be humbled, and those who were humble would be exalted. The word translated "overturn" ("ruin," niv) is awwa, and we can just hear Ezekiel lamenting: "Awwa—awwa—awwa!"

But once again, the Lord added a brief word of hope: the Messiah would one day come, the true Son of David and Israel's King, and would claim the Davidic crown and reign over His people (v. 27). The phrase "whose right it is" takes us back to Genesis 49:8-12, a messianic promise that we met in Ezekiel 19 when we studied the images of the lion and the vine.

God completes the task (Ezek. 21:28-32).

But what about the Ammonites? When the Lord directed the Babylonian army to Jerusalem, did this mean He would not judge the Ammonites for their sins against Him and the Jewish people? They would rejoice to see Babylon ravage the land of Judah and set fire to Jerusalem and the temple. (See Ezek. 25.) Along with Judah and the other nations, Ammon had joined the alliance against Babylon (Jer. 27:1ff), so Ammon had to be punished. Their own false prophets and diviners would give them a false hope that they had been spared (Ezek. 21:29), but God hadn't told Nebuchadnezzar to put his sword in its sheath (v. 30). The message closed with another fire (see 20:47-48), but this time a furnace in which ore was smelted. God would "blow" against the furnace and make it hotter, and then He would pour out the molten metal on His enemies. The Ammonites would become fuel for the fire and the nation would disappear from the earth.

We come away from the study of chapters 18 to 21 with a fresh realization of the tragedy of rebellion against the Lord. Israel had a long history of rebellion, but the other nations weren't any better, except that Israel was sinning against the light of God's Word and His providential care over His people. If any people had the obligation to obey and serve the Lord, it was Israel, for the Lord had blessed them abundantly. Instead of becoming a holy nation to the glory of God, she became like all the other nations and failed to be God's light to the Gentiles.

And yet, woven throughout this series of messages is the theme of Israel's hope. The prophet reminded them that God had promised to regather them from the Gentile nations and give them their King and their kingdom. Historically speaking, weak King Zedekiah was the last ruler in the Davidic dynasty, but not prophetically speaking; for Jesus Christ, the Son of David (Matt. 1:1) will one day come and reign from David's throne. Ezekiel will discuss that theme in detail before he completes his book.

Wiersbe
 
Posted by WildB (Member # 2917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lookingfortruth:
Once in captivity, he lived in relative splendor

Only a trumpite; who, during the night lives in the swamp with other slithering creatures, who only comes out in the night to feast on the gullible and blind and under the disguise of a fake user name would post such stinking garbage as is written in the above.

just an opinion, take it or leave it

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It is clear to all what those that call others trumpites stand for, NOTHING!

You must be a closet baby killer, embrace gay marriage , help open the little girls bathroom door for perverted males, and Hate Israel. .


Only Satan's seed would be insulted by the Truth. The only garbage stinking here is your attack on my person.

https://valor.militarytimes.com/hero/301487

Boilerman Third Class William K. Gainer, United States Navy, was awarded the Navy and Marine Corps Medal for heroism.

PS. I thought you were leaving?
lookingfortruth = Weed Seeder
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