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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5kJswovp7Y

Ann Barnhardt - Female Genital Mutilation in Islamic culture.

I heard they waited till 13. Some of these girls aren't 13...
They cut it off, all the way. Works based religion...

A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF "CULTURAL SENSITIVITY" BEING PUT BEFORE THE LAW!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=673346472810617&fref=nf

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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=713958798749384

*VIDEO*
SHARIA LAW - "She's buried chest high"

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The Last Thing A 3 Year Old Syrian Said Before He Died: “I’m Gonna Tell God Everything”

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2014/01/30/the-last-thing-a-3-year-old-syrian-said-before-he-died-im-gonna-tell-god-everything/

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And that’s equally haunting. It’s impossible to verify but the picture tells a story about the pain and suffering that exists in Syria right now. There are many in the media who would like to say this is because president Bashar al-Assad is a ruthless killer. And that’s half true. Like other government leaders – he has engaged in war and with that MOZTEC WAR has come the death of tens of thousands and the displacement of over 1 million Syrians now living in refugee camps.
But this hasn’t always been the case. This is the inevitable result of a covert war being waged by the U.S., Israel and other Sunni countries like Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Our interests in taking down the Syrian dictator al-Assad are all about geo-politics. If we take out Syria – we neuter Iranian influence in the region. It has gotten so bad that al-Qaeda is now fighting on the same side as the United States government and Bashar al-Assad and his government are fighting al-Qaeda. And Syrians are all the victim of this massive global covert proxy war.
It has gotten to the point where we don’t even know if the chemical weapons that were used in Syria were the result of al-Qaeda or the Syrian government. When it comes to matters of intelligence and propaganda – it’s very hard to discern truth from fiction. But no one can deny that Syria was a very stable country until we decided to go in all guns blazing. We’re not bringing democracy to the world – that’s the sound of imperialism baby.

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“the militant Muslim is the person who beheads the Infidel, while the moderate Muslim holds the feet of the victim.”

On January 17th, Sound Vision Foundation, a Chicago-based 501 (C) 3 organization, held a “Stand with the Prophet” event in Garland, Texas, a suburb outside of Dallas, at the Curtis Culwell Center on Independent School District property. The event, permitted by the Superintendent of Public Schools, launched a Strategic Communication Center for Muslims to advocate censoring and criminalizing non-Muslim speech.

Sound Vision asks: “Frustrated with Islamophobes defaming the Prophet? Remember the Danish cartoons defaming the Prophet? Or the anti-Islam film, ‘Innocence of Muslims’?”


Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/tale-two-city-protests-sharia-dallas-vs-christian-prayer-baton-rouge/#wptw8ZqYuH8pgoMQ.99

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And yet liberals want to portray Muslim as peaceful people,
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These people are not going to talk about it ANY MORE!

If it were in my authority, I would talk.

My Dreams TELL ME TO PROTECT ,

MY PEOPLE!

Psalms 121
1 I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help.
2 My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth.
3 He will not suffer thy foot to be moved: he that keepeth thee will not slumber.
4 Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.
5 The LORD is thy keeper: the LORD is thy shade upon thy right hand.
6 The sun shall not smite thee by day, nor the moon by night.
7 The LORD shall preserve thee from all evil: he shall preserve thy soul.
8 The LORD shall preserve thy going out and thy coming in from this time forth, and even for evermore.


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American Bikers United Against Jihad - ABUAJ
****** GRAPHIC 18+ *******

THIS VIDEO IS VERY SHOCKING AND BRUTALLY VIOLENT. BUDDHISTS ARE BEING BEATEN TO DEATH BY A CROWD OF BENGALI MUSLIMS

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=384999605006670

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This is what a fallen Nation gets as the highest

EVIL POWER in CHIEF!

http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2015/01/15/barack-hussein-obama-mocks-the-bible-and-admits-he-is-a-muslim-video/


Wow huh? This part really sticks out although it’s all insane.

“And even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America- whose Christianity would we teach in the schools? Would we go with James Dobson’s, or Al Sharpton’s? Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is okay and that eating shellfish is abomination? How about Deuteronomy which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount – a passage that is so radical that it’s doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive it’s application? So before we get carried away, let’s read our bibles. Folks haven’t been reading their bibles.”

I hate when he says ‘folks’ especially when he goes into his southern preacher accent.

And he musta not read Exodus 21:16 And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh6lJZUNVV8

Published on Jan 13, 2015
1. Police in Paris ends Terrorist Threat after Muslims kill Cartoonists
2. In a separate incident, Muslims kill four Jewish hostages in France
3. A Special interview with Bill Warner on Political Islam

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THIS IS HOW THE MOZTEC IS RAPEING YOUR KIDS! Title 6 Programs: Building a U.S. International Education Infrastructure? Hum?
The United States today faces unprecedented demand for globally competent citizens and professionals. Although 9/11 brought broad public and political attention to global integration and national security needs, the Federal government has long recognized this need. To this end, U.S. Department of Education (ED) Title VI and Fulbright-Hays programs form the vital infrastructure of the Federal government's investment in the international service pipeline. These programs' support for MOZTEC? MEXICAN ECT! "foreign" language, area, and international studies infrastructure- building at U.S. colleges and universities ensures a steady supply of graduates with expertise in less commonly taught languages (LCTLs), world areas, and transnational trends. Title VI primarily provides domestically-based language and area training, research, and outreach while Fulbright-Hays supports on-site opportunities to develop these skills. http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ope/iegps/title-six.html

Hang, by law, all aiders and abettors of the Moztec THREAT and
repeal The Title 6 program!


Death of a Christian People =Spiritual decline, moral awfulness, then political anarchy.

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Someone should lose their job over this.

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Freedom Outpost According to WND, Douglas County School District confirmed that such Islamic law will be enforced on the trip. Rocky Heights Middle School (RHMS) Principal Mike Loitz appeared on January 6, 2015 on KNUS 710 radio and was interviewed about the trip.
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Peter Boyles of KNUS reported on the rules the school system issued to students in order to notify parents, which were as follows:

The world religions field trip is next Tuesday, January 13. We will be visiting the Denver Mosque. THERE IS A DRESS CODE FOR THIS TRIP: All students must wear appropriate long pants. Ankles must be covered. Girls must bring wide scarves or hooded sweatshirts for the mosque.
http://gopthedailydose.com/2015/01/10/sharia-law-in-america-colorado-public-school-forces-girls-to-follow-islamic-dress-code-on-a-school-field-trip-to-a-mosque/#


This is from 2013 The Muslim Brotherhood in American Schools | Brigitte Gabriel
"I am waging a Bloodless Revolution in America's Public Schools..." - Shabbir Mansuri (Founder and Director of the Council on Islamic Education)... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSxwcPWcLAY
Brigitte Gabriel speaking at First Conservative Baptist Church April 12, 2012 in Jacksonville, FL.

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quote:
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quote:
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[QB] Islam is a political, legal, social, military and financial system but it is not a religion of peace.

What is not mentioned here, and is forgotten, is that they are are also chosen and Blessed by God. Islam is direct descendant of Abraham, through his firstborn son Ishmael. And what did God do, He Blessed Ishmael with a great nation, and many leaders would come out from him.

Islam is here, because God wants them to be here. They are serving His Purpose, exactly as He sees fit. Is it not written that God can mold a pot to be for honor and another pot for dishonor?

Pharaoh, was made by God, he did exactly as God wanted him to do. God is the one who hardened Pharaohs heart not to obey Moses.

one of many purposes that God is using Islam is to hold back the Jews from rebuilding their Temple until it is the right time to do so. If it were not for Islam, the Jews would have already rebuilt their temple ushering in the end times. But the Muslim presence on the Temple Mount is preventing them from building their temple. But one day they will.

So make no mistake about it, the Muslims are a chosen people, and are now still Blessed by God, to serve His purpose for Him. Prophesy reveals that that Blessing will one day be removed by the King of North.

Really? and from what I understand, tools of judgement really should not consider themselves blessed unto murder.

Since your not putting out no verse,
I assure you , the
Moztec is a tool.
Not blessed but used on those that are blessed.

Isaiah 10:15 Shall the axe boast itself against him that heweth therewith? or shall the saw magnify itself against him that shaketh it? as if the rod should shake itself against them that lift it up, or as if the staff should lift up itself, as if it were no wood.

I am but a guide-on.

drive safe.
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quote:
Originally posted by WildB:
[QB] Islam is a political, legal, social, military and financial system but it is not a religion of peace.

What is not mentioned here, and is forgotten, is that they are are also chosen and Blessed by God. Islam is direct descendant of Abraham, through his firstborn son Ishmael. And what did God do, He Blessed Ishmael with a great nation, and many leaders would come out from him.

Islam is here, because God wants them to be here. They are serving His Purpose, exactly as He sees fit. Is it not written that God can mold a pot to be for honor and another pot for dishonor?

Pharaoh, was made by God, he did exactly as God wanted him to do. God is the one who hardened Pharaohs heart not to obey Moses.

one of many purposes that God is using Islam is to hold back the Jews from rebuilding their Temple until it is the right time to do so. If it were not for Islam, the Jews would have already rebuilt their temple ushering in the end times. But the Muslim presence on the Temple Mount is preventing them from building their temple. But one day they will.

So make no mistake about it, the Muslims are a chosen people, and are now still Blessed by God, to serve His purpose for Him. Prophesy reveals that that Blessing will one day be removed by the King of North.

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Now these Moztec have gone too far.

This extremely disturbing footage shows the body of a young schoolgirl after she was beheaded by Muslim terrorists.
While the reasonings behind the killing are unknown at this time, it is probable that the girl was killed to send a message to the Western world about women’s rights.

http://mrconservative.com/2014/12/53950-graphic-terrorists-film-beheading-of-schoolgirl-in-message-to-america/

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Remember that ISIS Moztec that married the 7yr old, most vilely?

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Yeah, Peshmerga got him.

He is now a knick nack.

Luke 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

from https://www.facebook.com/tacticalshit/photos/a.1414254495463437.1073741828.1413185958903624/1559495784272640/?type=1

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WARNING: VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT! Educate yourself on 'Halal'.. This process should really be banned along with This Cult of TERROR! Instead the misinformed continue to welcome and encourage!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/shopping-and-consumer-news/11384505/Secret-halal-slaughterhouse-film-reveals-horrific-animal-abuse.html

Islam shows its face again. And of course where would it come from, but Dearborn, Michigan?

Arabs in Dearborn, Michigan have sued McDonald’s for not serving a halal chicken sandwich. How ridiculous will it get? Islam, a religion that is not compatible with a western society. It has no intention to integrate into our free, American way of life.

The only goal Islam has is to be a bully. It does not matter if it’s a bully in the Middle East, a bully in America, and of course in Dearborn, Michigan.

Islam repeats itself again because it is the nature of Islam to be a bully. It is a historical fact that Muslims become bullies. As soon as the population grows, as in Dearborn, we have more and more of this type of activity that tries to force companies, independent companies, to do exactly what they want. If the companies refuse, then they are immediately sued.

Now McDonald’s is paying out$ 700,000, which of course we will all pay for, because two of its stores in Dearborn have been accused by Muslims of not serving a halal chicken sandwich.

How ridiculous has the world become? How ridiculous has our court system become? Why are we, as Americans, so eager to compromise, so willing to give in to the ridiculous threats and intimidating demands of Islam, which come from individuals such as, Majed Moughni?

I would suggest to all Muslims if you do not like America, if you do not like the way that we do things, you should pack your bags and go back to Iran, or Iraq, or Afghanistan, or some other God-forsaken Middle Eastern desert.

We, in America, will not tolerate such activity. We will stand up against it. We will do whatever is necessary to make sure the Islamic agenda, which is one of death and destruction, does not get a foothold in America.

Exception if no Halal is available

If there is absolutely no other food available, then a Muslim is allowed to eat non-halal food.[3] Surah 2:173 states:
If one is forced because there is no other choice, neither craving nor transgressing, there is no sin on him.
"This day (all) the good things are allowed to you; and the food of those who have been given the Book is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them; and the chaste from among the believing women and the chaste from among those who have been given the Book before you (are lawful for you); when you have given them their dowries, taking (them) in marriage, not fornicating nor taking them for paramours in secret; and whoever denies faith, his work indeed is of no account, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers."
— Quran, Sura 5 (Al-Maidah)

These Moztecs have other options and have NO RIGHT BY OUR LAWS to force their religious beliefs on local business.

These people are Liars and Now thiefs. My just like their sea daddy Muhammad. What's next KILLING THE INFIDELS!

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Made me sick when I saw that.
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quote:
Originally posted by WildB:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/isis-terrorists-drag-dead-bodies-through-the-street-train-children-to-fight-video/

Content Warning: ISIS Terrorists Drag Dead Bodies Through Streets

ISIS are the only True Moztecs. The rest of these so called Moderate ones are but a thought away from being pure or face being purified by the pure.

MOZTEC EVIL has overstepped its boundaries in a Christian nation of 73 percenters, and it’s getting progressively worse. Openly infiltrating our houses of government with blasphemous declarations to a false god, the particular people bowing their heads in reverence will disturb and anger you.

http://defund.com/allah-the-most-gracious-the-most-merciful-praised-on-us-house-floor-reps-literally-bow-to-muslim-god/

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ISIS ‘Systematically Beheading 18 Syrians, an American in new video. [GRAPHIC CONTENT]...
http://ow.ly/Eot2q

ISIS are the only True Moztecs. The rest of these so called Moderate ones are but a thought away from being pure or face being purified by the pure.

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UK Islamist Wants Sharia Law In America And Every Woman Covered “Head To Toe”
"I want to see adulterers stoned to death..."

Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/uk-islamist-wants-sharia-law-america-every-woman-covered-head-toe/#U3gq6UGm0rOurLhQ.99

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quote:
Originally posted by holger:
Sorry WildB if believing in God's words in the bible and not in some church's improvements is a religion off my own. yes..

Well sorry to hear that. Did you not know that this is a Grace BBS?


And the devils believe in Gods Word too.Satan actually tried to use some not rightly dived against Christ when he tempted him in the wilderness.

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Lets get back on Topic: ISLAM the Terror Cult

Start another topic if you want to post what ever you have been spamming this topic with the last 3 days?

You can call your Topic, a religion of my own Then lay it all out there.
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Sorry WildB if believing in God's words in the bible and not in some church's improvements is a religion off my own. yes..
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quote:
Originally posted by holger:
There are people who should step back and take a close look at there religion .. and they might find them self drifting away from God.


So step back and take a look at your self then.

Just by the answers and statements of your post, It is clear to all that you are not in Christ but a religion of your own makings.
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There are people who should step back and take a close look at there religion .. and they might find them self drifting away from God.
politics has become the religion off many fueled by hate. to many say they live by the word off God when they actually live according to there own and there church's vanities,,forgetting the words off God.
Remember what Jesus said about love?!
Mar 5:43- 5:48
and yes WildB here too you can find some appostles words that religion took and and made to something they could use...
just remember God's words always comes before man's words...

follow God or follow mankind

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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/isis-terrorists-drag-dead-bodies-through-the-street-train-children-to-fight-video/

Content Warning: ISIS Terrorists Drag Dead Bodies Through Streets

ISIS are the only True Moztecs. The rest of these so called Moderate ones are but a thought away from being pure or face being purified by the pure.

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U don't have to WildB as i said i understand
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quote:
Originally posted by holger:
But if u think i don't understand help me understand

Im a guidon bearer, not a teacher.The Guidon that I now bear is for my Lord.
Pray that the Holy Spirit help you understand His Word directly.

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quote:
Originally posted by holger:
HSN44 thank u for your input.
i don't know if i should be surprised or just feel a little sick propaganda and misuse of info on a Christian board .. who can we trust .?.? guess we are back to judgement day

Trust Jesus not man. HSN44's input easily led you to miss-judge this board.

Joshua 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.


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But if u think i don't understand help me understand
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Oh yes i do
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quote:
Originally posted by holger:
You kinda miss the point WildB
does God/Christ anywhere in the Bible say he's truth belong only to this or that religion???
does Christ say the old testament. the 10 commandments and God's 7 holy day's are not valid anymore??
nope he says the opposite!!!
follow God or follow mankind my friend

No you have missed the mark my friend. May the Holy Spirit bring to life the words from the Bible that I have already posted. It is clear you do not understand.

2 Peter 3
1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.


In Jesus Name,
Amen.

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You kinda miss the point WildB
does God/Christ anywhere in the Bible say he's truth belong only to this or that religion???
does Christ say the old testament. the 10 commandments and God's 7 holy day's are not valid anymore??
nope he says the opposite!!!
follow God or follow mankind my friend

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Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Romans 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Romans 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Galatians 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Hebrews 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Hebrews 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
James 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.


Romans 9
1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.

27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.

30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


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I kinda start to like u WildB ..but u still do as Christians have always done .. putting the words of man before the word of God ...
Matthew 5:17 think not i am come to destroy the law or the prophets i am not come to destroy but to fulfil
G5:18 for verily i say unto you till heaven and earth pass one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled
5:19 whosoever therefore shall break one of these last commandments and shal teach men so he shall be called the last in the kingdom of heaven but whosoever shall do and teach them the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven

just read on my friend ...
u can for sure find somewhere where the vanities of religion turns the words of Christ to fit them just remember that when the world tells u something that don't fit with the word of God the world is wrong

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Here prayerfully study this....


Galatians 2


1 Then fourteen years after I(Paul) went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also.


2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.


3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:


4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:


5 To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.


6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person:) for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:


7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;


8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)


9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.


10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.


11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.


12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.


13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.


14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?


15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,


16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.


17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.


18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.


19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.


20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.


21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.


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If holding on to the vanities off a religion /church who at it's best is only obeying 6 of God's 10 (11) commandments and who don't keep God's 7 holy day's and who even though they know better are teaching wrong about Christ's birth/dead, if that's propaganda and or anti propaganda WildB then I'm innocent
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quote:
Originally posted by holger:
If not claiming any religion to be mine and not promoting any vanities off any religion is anti propaganda I'm guilty! if not claiming that God's truth belongs to only one religion but to all of mankind is anti propaganda I'm guilty if telling that God send he's scriptures down to all off mankind not just to the Jews the Christians the Muslims and so on is anti propaganda yes WildB then I'm guilty

Christ taint a religion, Hes a relationship.
Your own words weed you out.

John 17
1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.


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If not claiming any religion to be mine and not promoting any vanities off any religion is anti propaganda I'm guilty! if not claiming that God's truth belongs to only one religion but to all of mankind is anti propaganda I'm guilty if telling that God send he's scriptures down to all off mankind not just to the Jews the Christians the Muslims and so on is anti propaganda yes WildB then I'm guilty
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‘Women and children dumped in a well’: ISIS massacres 322 Sunni tribesmen in west Iraq!!


ISIS MILITANTS are the only True Moztecs to which the Obama shadow administration supports. The rest of you moderate and aiders and abettors are but a thought away from being pure or being purified by the pure.

THE PURE PURIFYING THE UN-PURE is THE TRUE MOZTEC DOGMA!

“The number of people killed by Islamic State from Al-Bu Nimr tribe is 322. The bodies of 50 women and children have also been discovered dumped in a well," the country's Human Rights Ministry said on Sunday.

http://rt.com/news/201719-islamic-state-tribe-massacre/

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Holy Shiite! Syrian rebels trained by US defect to Al-Qaeda after receiving weapons from America to fight ISIS, Assad

The loss of a group that had been held up as an example of Western efforts to court moderate rebel factions is another humiliating blow for Obama. For the past six months the Hazm movement, and the SRF through them, had been receiving heavy weapons from the U.S.-led coalition, including Grad rockets and Tow anti-tank missiles.

ISIS are the only True Moztecs. The rest of you moderate are but a thought away from being pure or purified by the pure.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1114/us_supplying_al_qaeda.php3

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quote:
Originally posted by holger:
HSN44 thank u for your input.
i don't know if i should be surprised or just feel a little sick propaganda and misuse of info on a Christian board .. who can we trust .?.? guess we are back to judgement day

prop·a·gan·da
ˌpräpəˈɡandə/
noun
1.
derogatory
information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.


Then holger you stand charged with aiding enemy "anti-propaganda" distribution to the forwarding of another Gospel.

Un-like you, I WAS THERE for to be A TRUE AND JUST WITNESS in CHRIST when called!

The Lord rebuke you and spew out,
all such like lukewarmness from the Body of Christ!

In Jesus Name,
Amen.


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HSN44 thank u for your input.
i don't know if i should be surprised or just feel a little sick propaganda and misuse of info on a Christian board .. who can we trust .?.? guess we are back to judgement day

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Islam is not a terror cult. It is a religion which you can study on http://www.al-islam.org

And I skimmed the thread, and it seems it is filled with misquotes, misinterpretations and speaking about extremists in a religion. Whereas those extremists do not represent the religion. Yet, even in that, there is this false propaganda.

For instance, I was shocked to see how this picture is portrayed to be related to them:

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This is from a historical re-enactment of the tragedy of Karbala, by shia Muslims. In Karbala, 72 members of the progeny of Prophet Muhammad, his companions and followers were massacred and their women were captivated. And this is a reenactment of that tragedy. Shia Muslims do this reenactment every year. See, this one in Turkey for instance:

(reenactment of slavery)

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(reenactment of children asking the brave Abulfadl Abbas fight the enemy and cross the enemy lines and bring them water from Euphrates)

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etc.

Yes, as a shia Muslim, I condemn the devillish ISIS and their crimes. Yet, pictures of pure Muslim people doing reenactments of historical and current crimes, should not be used as a pretext to attack Islam and Muslims. That would be unjust.

In summary, you might disagree with Islam, yet you need to be just about it. Misquoting the texts, misinterpreting them, and attacking the religion is not just. And to make use of false and extreme views, and their crimes to attack the whole religion is also unjust. And even then, portraying shia Muslims' pure reenactments of historical crimes (so as to symphatize with all victims of history and today) as a current crime is also unjust.

And, I believe Christians should be just about everything. Thanks.

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Not sure who u aim at WildB! it don't fit on me, don't know if it fit on u or if it's how u feel about the Muslims ...But u give a good example of on of Christians big mistakes ( and u push a little discussion of the christian religion /church ) Christians always put the word off the apostles (man) before the word off God ...
go with God or go with mankind
woopsy sorry put it wrong
follow God or follow mankind
and try to learn the difference

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quote:
Originally posted by holger:
sure i'll have some more milk WildB
sweet when religion turns and twist God's word to make it fit to there vanity.
as i said we can believe what we want,we can hate who we want,we can follow who we want....we can follow God we can follow religion we can follow governments yes we can even mix and match it all to fit our own vanity.we all have to answer to God about the life we lived and the choices we made on judgement day and here is nobody to blame except our self...
i can not approve what terrorists do but it's not gonna make me hate every Muslim

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.


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sure i'll have some more milk WildB
sweet when religion turns and twist God's word to make it fit to there vanity.
as i said we can believe what we want,we can hate who we want,we can follow who we want....we can follow God we can follow religion we can follow governments yes we can even mix and match it all to fit our own vanity.we all have to answer to God about the life we lived and the choices we made on judgement day and here is nobody to blame except our self...
i can not approve what terrorists do but it's not gonna make me hate every Muslim

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http://www.westernjournalism.com/dad-banned-from-school-after-complaints-about-daughters-islam-homework/

A Maryland father and former Marine finds himself under a no-trespass order for asking that his daughter be excused from Islam homework in her world history class.

Kevin Wood, the eight year Marine veteran, was upset because he did not want his high-school junior daughter to participate in instruction on Islam.


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quote:
Originally posted by holger:
WildB i got a great job and no i'm not an abbetor but if you want to call me that so be it .. i'll forgive you.

quote:
Originally posted by knowHim:
A Legacy of Hate

The founding prophet of Islam, Mohammed, hated all who opposed him. Therefore, it was his custom to murder them. This included Jews, Christians, and even Muslim apostates. Therefore, when Muslims kill non-Muslims, they are following the legacy of Mohammed.

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http://ptnews.org/2014/06/making-sure-will-left-behind-part-one/


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Matthew 7:1Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


MohoMAD is dead, bones in the ground whoes soul burneth in Hell as I post. Careful you don't get accursed yourself by pushing a different Gospel.

as for your miss use of text, have some more milk.

Judge Not!
Matthew 7:1-6
How many of you have said something like, "The Muslims don't know God" or "The Jews are apostates" or "Homosexuality is a sin", and had someone respond, "Judge not, that you be not judged"? This verse is probably quoted more by people who don't know Christ or the Bible than any other passage in all of Scripture:

Matthew 7:1 (NKJV) "Judge not, that you be not judged.
Many people have misunderstood Jesus' admonition concerning judging. When Jesus says that we are not to judge, many people have interpreted that to mean that we are not to engage in any form of analysis or evaluation of others. In other words, this line of thinking says that we cannot conclude that a person's behavior or lifestyle is wrong, and that they are consequently wrong for engaging in it. Those who would like to justify all manner of evil use this verse to chasten anyone who would take a stand for righteousness.

This verse is also misused when referring to other people's religious beliefs. Some people seem to say that we must sacrifice our ability to discriminate in decision making. Such a position would require that we exercise no discernment. There is a sense in which we are not to judge people, but we will see in this study that there is a sense in which we, as believers, are required to judge others.

http://www.bereanbiblechurch.org/.../matthew/som/7_1-6.htm


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WildB i got a great job and no i'm not an abbetor but if you want to call me that so be it .. i'll forgive you.

quote:
Originally posted by knowHim:
A Legacy of Hate

The founding prophet of Islam, Mohammed, hated all who opposed him. Therefore, it was his custom to murder them. This included Jews, Christians, and even Muslim apostates. Therefore, when Muslims kill non-Muslims, they are following the legacy of Mohammed.

Quoted from:
http://ptnews.org/2014/06/making-sure-will-left-behind-part-one/


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Matthew 7:1Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

I'm sure you did your research on Muhammad befor you told us how he was..... if this is what you place your opinion upon (see below) then it looks like we have to take a little trip down memory lane, when your done with that little note about Mohammad's life ...

Muhammad, was born in Makkah in the year 570, at a time when Christianity was not yet fully established in Europe. Since his father died before his birth, and his mother shortly afterwards, he was raised by his uncle from the respected tribe of Quraysh. As he grew up, he became known for his truthfulness, generosity and sincerity, so that he was sought after for his ability to arbitrate in disputes. The historians describe him as calm and meditative.
We may divide Muhammad’s life into three main periods.
Pre-Prophetic Period (570-610 AD). While still young, Muhammad began work in the Meccan caravan trade, which put him in contact with diverse religious traditions. At 25 years old, he married a wealthy widow, Khadijah, who was 15 years his senior. With more leisure time, Muhammad developed the habit of retreating to a cave on Mount Hira for prayer and reflection, as was common for the polytheists of the Meccan Quraysh tribe.
Meccan Prophetic Period (610-622). During one of his yearly retreats, Muhammad became convinced that a demonic spirit had ordered him to recite verses (now found in Qur’an 96:1-5). However, his wife Khadijah and her cousin Waraqah persuaded him that he was a prophet of Allah. Muhammad soon began preaching Islam to friends and family members, and later to the public. Due to his increasingly inflammatory condemnation of the religious beliefs of the polytheists of Mecca, Muhammad and his followers were persecuted. After his wife Khadijah and his uncle Abu Talib died, Muhammad decided to flee Mecca.
Medinan Prophetic Period (622-632). Having formed alliances with various non-Muslim groups, Muhammad began robbing the Meccan caravans. These attacks eventually led to a series of battles with Mecca. As war booty poured in, so did new converts. The growing Muslim army allowed Muhammad to subdue not only Mecca, but the rest of Arabia as well. Muhammad suffered an agonizing death in 632 after being poisoned by a Jewish woman whose family had been slaughtered by Muslims.

So now we know a little more about Mohammet's life and what good Christians built there opinion off him upon and judge the muslim belife and muslems upon....
now lets take a walk trough some of Christianity's history (just a little little bit of it) so fasten your seatbelts and hold on tight as we look at how good people the Christians was... and then dicide if you want to have your religion judged on that ....

As soon as Christianity was legal (315), more and more pagan temples were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were killed.
Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.
Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis.
Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous as "temple destroyer." [DA468]
Pagan services became punishable by death in 356. [DA468]
Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. [DA469]

seems like some nice Christian folks right !!!
well lets go on a bit.....

Christian chronicler Eckehard of Aura noted that "even the following summer in all of palestine the air was polluted by the stench of decomposition". One million victims of the first crusade alone. [WW41]
Battle of Askalon, 8/12/1099. 200,000 heathens slaughtered "in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ". [WW45]
Fourth crusade: 4/12/1204 Constantinople sacked, number of victims unknown, numerous thousands, many of them Christian. [WW141-148]
Rest of Crusades in less detail: until the fall of Akkon 1291 probably 20 million victims (in the Holy land and Arab/Turkish areas alone). [WW224]

everything in the name off God and Jesus ....

1257, 1267: Jewish communities of London, Canterbury, Northampton, Lincoln, Cambridge, and others exterminated. [DO41]
1290 in Bohemian (Poland) allegedly 10,000 Jews killed. [DO41]
1337 Starting in Deggendorf/Germany a Jew-killing craze reaches 51 towns in Bavaria, Austria, Poland. [DO41]
1348 All Jews of Basel/Switzerland and Strasbourg/France (two thousand) burned. [DO41]
1349 In more than 350 towns in Germany all Jews murdered, mostly burned alive (in this one year more Jews were killed than Christians in 200 years of ancient Roman persecution of Christians). [DO42]
1389 In Prag 3,000 Jews were slaughtered. [DO42]

well it was not here but over on the other side of the ocean right .......
so lets look at here for a bit.......

What happened to his people was described by an eyewitness:
"The Spaniards found pleasure in inventing all kinds of odd cruelties ... They built a long gibbet, long enough for the toes to touch the ground to prevent strangling, and hanged thirteen [natives] at a time in honor of Christ Our Saviour and the twelve Apostles... then, straw was wrapped around their torn bodies and they were burned alive." [SH72]
Or, on another occasion:
"The Spaniards cut off the arm of one, the leg or hip of another, and from some their heads at one stroke, like butchers cutting up beef and mutton for market. Six hundred, including the cacique, were thus slain like brute beasts...Vasco [de Balboa] ordered forty of them to be torn to pieces by dogs." [SH83]
The "island's population of about eight million people at the time of Columbus's arrival in 1492 already had declined by a third to a half before the year 1496 was out." Eventually all the island's natives were exterminated, so the Spaniards were "forced" to import slaves from other caribbean islands, who soon suffered the same fate. Thus "the Caribbean's millions of native people [were] thereby effectively liquidated in barely a quarter of a century". [SH72-73] "In less than the normal lifetime of a single human being, an entire culture of millions of people, thousands of years resident in their homeland, had been exterminated." [SH75]
"And then the Spanish turned their attention to the mainland of Mexico and Central America. The slaughter had barely begun. The exquisite city of Tenochtitln [Mexico city] was next." [SH75]
Cortez, Pizarro, De Soto and hundreds of other spanish conquistadors likewise sacked southern and mesoamerican civilizations in the name of Christ (De Soto also sacked Florida).
"When the 16th century ended, some 200,000 Spaniards had moved to the Americas. By that time probably more than 60,000,000 natives were dead." [SH95]


Although none of the settlers would have survived winter without native help, they soon set out to expel and exterminate the Indians. Warfare among (north American) Indians was rather harmless, in comparison to European standards, and was meant to avenge insults rather than conquer land. In the words of some of the pilgrim fathers: "Their Warres are farre less bloudy...", so that there usually was "no great slawter of nether side". Indeed, "they might fight seven yeares and not kill seven men." What is more, the Indians usually spared women and children. [SH111]

if any body feels like it we can look at the Catholic and Jews too....
it is so easy to judge a whole religion on some break out religions from the main religio... you are free to belive what ever you want , your free to hate who ever you want and only God shal judge you for it.....

Romans 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that He might have mercy upon all.
Romans 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
This is NOT a free ticket to Heaven . . . it is God's Mercy directed ONLY at any mistakes we might have made in our worship of Him. We will always answer for our deeds of this life.

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