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TB125
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These politicians who are talking about "health care" don't seem to recognize these facts:

1. Health care is not a RIGHT of life. It is a service that must be purchased or provided as a gift by those who care.

2. Every insurance program, whether it is called medicare or Blue Cross and Blue Shield or by some other company or government name, is a financial plan that is purchased by consumers who are seeking to be reimbursed for some possible future costs. The companies, including the government, who provide such benefits must do so out of the profits that are generated and sustained by balancing the income from premiums from those who currently don't need the benefits with the costly payouts to those who do. To try to provide benefits without regard to "pre-existing conditions" or other basic circumstances in the lives of the consumers, such as age or medical history, is unwise business. The balance of profits and costs cannot be sustained in such a business operation, whether it is private or public.

3. The costs of providing health care cannot be reformed or controlled without controlling the profits or payouts to those who are providing health care services and products, and few providers of such services and products want government controls over their "businesses", whether these are insurance companies or physician's offices or other providers of health care services or products. People want to know specifically who is going to pay for these costs of providing health care to those who can't afford to purchase these services or products or some insurance to help with their costs. And health care providers want to know how their businesses are going to be affected by government financial plans for health care.

I don't think that "Health Care Reform" will get much popular support until our politicians, including the president, begin to clearly address these facts.

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Because it's one rule for the rulers and another rule for the ruled, Betty.

It's one of the oldest stories in the book.

We are the sheep, and we can't be expected to live like the sheppards now can we???? (obvious scarcasam intended)

We have no one to blame here but oursleves (America, not speeking about you and I exactly)

American's have allowed this to happen by their blind eyes and silenced mouths.

We, American's, are at fault and no one else.

You give a mouse a cookie and it's gonna' want a glass of milk...

All we, Americans, are doing is giving these people milk and cookies, it should come as no supprise that they now want more.

Can you blame them, since we let them get away with it?

Just a thought.

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Betty Louise
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It this bill is so great that Congress is trying to shove down our throat then why do they do not use the same health care?

Betty

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Betty,
What "health care bill" is this exactly? Who is endorsing this bill? It appears to impose total control over every aspect of health care in America to a government Health Commission or bureaucracy without giving individual patients or doctors many choices. If such severe restrictions and controls are being proposed, as cited in your message, how can the president and various representatives in Congress deny their existence? There is either a lot of "lying" going on or these bills are being "spun" or interpreted in such ways as to hide their true content or to confuse citizens regarding the true provisions of these proposed "reforms". If we citizens can't "trust" our elected officials to be clearly honest and straight with us regarding such important matters, we need a lot more "reforms" than just one in "health care"!

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Thank you for posting, Betty. [Smile]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGaGaF22gCk

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Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!
Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process)
Page 42: The Health Choices Commissionerwill decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.
Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.
Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (read: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)
Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.
Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans)
Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens
Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.
Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.
Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No judicial reviewis permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.
Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.
Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.
Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families.
Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll
Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll
Page 167: Any individual who doesn’t have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).
Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Healthcare Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal records.
Page 203: The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax.Yes, it really says that.
Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected.
Page 241: Doctors: no matter what specialty you have, you’ll all be paid the same (thanks, AMA!)
Page 253: Government sets value of doctorstime, their professional judgment, etc.
Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private healthcare industries.
Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
Page 272: Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!
Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems preventable re-admissions.
Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the government.
Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited for owning and investing in healthcare companies!
Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval.
Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on community input: in other words, yet another payoff for ACORN.
Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures: i.e., rationing.
Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc.
Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.
Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone).
Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?
Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.
Page 425: Government provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.
Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends.
Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as patients health deteriorates. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT.
Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may have at end-of-life.
Page 469: Community-based Home Medical Services: more payoffs for ACORN.
Page 472: Payments to Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.
Page 489: Government will cover marriage and family therapy. Government intervenes in your marriage.
Page 494: Government will cover mental health services: defining, creating and rationing those services.
PG 502 Line 5-18 Government builds the Center to conduct, support, & synthesize research to define our HealthCare Services.
PG 502 Section 1181 Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research Established. Hello Big Brother Literally.
PG 503 Line 13-19 Government will build registries and data networks from YOUR electronic medical records.
PG 503 Line 21-25 Government may secure data directly from any department or agency of the US including your data.
PG 504 Line 6-10 The Center will collect data both published & unpublished (that means public & your private info)
PG 506 Line 19-21 The Center will recommend policies that would allow for public access of data.
PG 518 Line 21-25 The Commission will have input from HealthCare consumer reps “Can you say unions & ACORN?
PG 524 18-22 Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund set up. More taxes for ALL.
PGs 525-620 deals with the Govt basically taking over nursing homes, long-term care facilities (think assisted living) through regulations of the facilities, the owners of sd facilities, the employees of sd facilities and even the land owners of that sd facilities reside on. Additionally as you read these 90+ pages you can come to the conclusion that any Health related services will be determined and rationed by the Govt for our senior citizens and others in nursing homes. This one post should do enough to raise awareness of the control the Govt is exerting over the older population of American citizens.
PG 620 Line 1-9 The Government will define, prioritize, and nationalize your Health Care Services.
PG 621 Lines 20-25 Government will define what Quality means in HealthCare. Since when does Government know about quality?
PG 622 Lines 2-9 To pay for the quality Standards Government will transfer $$ from to other Government Trust Funds. More Taxes.
PG 624 Quality measures shall be designed to assess outcomes & functional status of patients.
PG 628 Section 1443 Government will give Multi-Stake Holders Pre-Rule Making input into Selection of Quality Measures.
PG 630 9-24/631 1-9 Those Multi-stake holder groups including Unions & groups like ACORN deciding HealthCare quality.
PG 632 Lines 14-25 The Government may implement any Quality measure of HealthCare Services as they see fit.
PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed Quality Measures for Physician Services & Dialysis Services.
PG 635 “ 653 Physicians Payments Sunshine Provision “ Government wants to shine sunlight on Docs but not Government.
PG 654-659 Public Reporting on Health Care-Associated Infections “Looks okay.
PG 660-671 Doctors in Residency “Government will tell you where your residency will be, thus where you’ll live.
PG 676-686 Government will regulate hospitals in EVERY aspect of residency programs, including teaching hospitals.
PG 686-700 Increased Funding to Fight Waste, Fraud, and Abuse. You mean the Government with an $18 mil website?
PGs 701-704 Section 1619 If your part of HealthCare plan that isn’t in Government HealthCare Exchange but you qualify for Federal aid, no payment.
PG 705-709 SEC. 1128 If Secretary gets complaints (ACORN) on HealthCare provider or supplier, Government can do background check.
PG 711 Lines 8-14 The Secretary has broad powers to deny HealthCare providers/suppliers admittance into HealthCare Exchange.
Pg 719-720 Section 1637 ANY Doctor who orders durable medical equipment or home medical services MUST be enrolled in Medicare.
PG 722 Section 1639 Government Mandates Doctors must have face-to-face with patient to certify patient for Home Health Services.
PG 724 23-25 PG 725 1-5 The same Government certifications will apply to medicaid & CHIP (your kids)
Pg 735 lines 16-25 For law enforcement purposes, the Secretary of Health & Human Services will give Attorney General access to ALL data.
PG 724 Lines 16-22 Government reserves right to apply face-to-face certification for patient to ANY other HealthCare service.
PG 740-757 Government sets guidelines for subsidizing the uninsured (That’s your tax dollars peeps)
Pg 757-762 Fed Government will shift burden of payments to Disproportionate Share Hospitals (DSH) to States. (Taxes)
PG 763 1-8 No DS/EA hospitals will be paid unless they provide services without regard to national origin
Pg 765 Section 1711 Government will require Preventative Services including vaccines. (Choice?)
Pg 768 Section 1713 Government “Nursing Home Visitation Services (Hello union paybacks)
Pg 769 11-14 Nurseing Home Visit Services include-economic self-sufficiency, employment advancement, school-readiness.
Pg 769 3-5 Nursing Home Visit Services increasing birth intervals between pregnancies. Government Abortions anyone?
Pg 770 SEC 1714 Federal Government mandates eligibility for State Family Planning Services. Say abortion & State Sovereign.
Pg 789-797 Government will set & mandate drug prices, controlling which drugs will brought to market. Goodbye innovation.
Pgs 797-800 SEC. 1744 PAYMENTS for grad medical education. The government will now control Drs education.
PG 801 Sec 1751 The Government will decide which Health care conditions will be paid. Say RATION!
Pg 810 SEC. 1759. Billing Agents, clearinghouses, etc. required to register. Government takes over private payment system.
PG 820-824 Sec 1801 Government will identify individuals ineligible for subsidies. Will access all personal finances.
Pg 824-829 SEC. 1802. Government Sets up Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund. Another tax black hole.
PG 829-833 Government will impose a fee on ALL private health insurance plans including self insured to pay for Trust Fund!
PG 835 11-13 fees imposed by Government for Trust Fund shall be treated as if they were taxes.
Pg 838-840 Government will design & implement Home Visitation Program for families with young kids & families expecting kids.
PG 844-845 This Home Visitation Program includes Government coming into your house & telling you how to parent!!!
Pg 859 Government will establish a Public Health Fund at a cost of $88,800,000,000. Yes thats Billion.
PG 865 to 876 The NHS Corps is a program where Drs. perform mandatory HealthCare for 2 years for part loan repayment.
PG 876-892 The Government takes over the education of our Medical students and Drs.
PG 898 The Government will establish a Public Health Workforce Corps. to ensure supply of public health professionals.
PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of civilian employees of the U.S. as Secretary deems.
PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of officers of Regular & Reserve Corps of Service.
PG 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians.
PG 901 The Public Health Workforce Corps WILL include commissioned Regular & Reserve Officers. HealthCare Draft?
PG 910 The Government will develop, build & run Public Health Training Centers.
PG 913-914 Government starts a HealthCare affirmative action program thru guise of diversity scholarships.
PG 915 SEC. 2251. Government MANDATES Cultural & linguistic competency training for HealthCare professionals.
Pg 932 The Government will establish Preventative & Wellness Trust fund – initial cost of $30,800,000,000- Bill ion.
PG 935 21-22 Government will identify specific goals & objectives for prevention & wellness activities. Control You!!
PG 936 Government will develop Healthy People & National Public Health Performance StandardsTell me what to eat?
PG 942 Lines 22-25 More Government? Offices of Surgeon General -Public Health Services, Minority Health, Women’s Health.
PG 950- 980 BIG Government core public health infrastructure includes workforce capacity, lab systems; health information systems, etc
PG 993 Government will establish school based health clinics. Your kids won't have a chance.
PG 994 School Based Health Clinics will be integrated into the school environment. Say Government Brainwash!
PG 1001 The Government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will you be tracked?
PG 1003 9-11 National Medical Dev Reg (iii) other postmarket device surveillance activities you WILL be tracked.
PG 1018 States give up some of their State Sovereignty.

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Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

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