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byfaith
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Amen Brother Paul. Amen.
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Brother Paul, [thumbsup2]

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I just have 3 words for Brother Paul, VERY WELL SAID!
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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s propaganda Minister

Brothers and sisters,

We who are genuine Christians are neither democrats or republicans our alleigance is to Christ and the truth (John 17:17) and that is why we are persecuted the world over (and soon here as well by democrats and republicans). The up and coming democratic "hate Speech" bills are designed to silence and jail us...the republican patriot act make it possible for them to tell who we are...both these machines of mammon exploit us...one by their promises of pro-life tidbits and a strong defense and the other by promises of feeding the poor and healing the sick that contain a double speak which will allow them to euthanize handicapped people kill full term babies and more. They both are machines of worldliness with a basis in a desire for power and control.

Where is our alleigence? To God our King alone and His Kingdom alone which is neither a republic or a democracy. If you are a follower of Christ you will strive with all your power to expose these slithering serpents for who they are. And yes there is no such thing as a lesser of two evils...one drop of infectious puss makes a whole barrel of clean water filthy and not fit to drink.

The Democrats and the Republicans as competing machines do not give a rats behind about Jesus...oh there are one or two here or there but the clear preponderance are children of Belial (the father of lies...the serpent)...we are not of this world but alas we must be in it and even this is for a purpose...we are His arms, hands, feet, and mouths...fight corruption dispel the illusions and speak only the truth...never believe one side without carefully and with an open mind considering the other point of view and then before you decide compare all things with the word tossing out what is bad and keeping that which is good

cor·rup·tion - Pronunciation: \kə-rəp-shən\ - Function: noun -Date: 14th century
1 a : impairment of integrity, virtue, or moral principle : depravity b : decay, decomposition c : inducement to wrong by improper or unlawful means (as bribery) d : a departure from the original or from what is pure or correct 2 archaic : an agency or influence that corrupts [m-w.com]

Hitler was a humainst...he also was pro-death (the opposers of pro-life) he believed in the power of man (he despised people who believed God)...he was a leftist not a right wing nut (a nationalist socialist like Castro only more ingenious and more infamous)...but he knew a secret most Americans living in their complacent matrix fall for everyday through the media, the movies, the radio etc (Geobbels favorite toolbox)...read it carefully and become bondslaves to your loving Master...it is the only lasting hope the people have,,,and yes you may even be called to die for it (but be better for it, obtaining to a better resurrection)

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s propaganda Minister

If you are a true Christian who believes God (not just in Him) you ARE an enemy of the State and one day soon they are coming for us...keep your wicks trimmed and your lamps full of oil

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The republican party started abortion (proven fact)...bits and pieces and "trying" to make it right is a proven deception.

It would be nice if everyone would apply Christ's teachings and way of life. But we are fallen human beings living in a fallen world. The political scheme is perverted and harm many. However, being fallen humans we tend to cling towards an agenda that is opposite of Christ's teaching.

I have no political agenda in any way, if a political entity claims they are Christian it will be made known by their fruits period.

However, if people think or believe in a certain agenda or are in a certain paradigm they resist to look at proven facts.

Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is STILL voting for evil! "Alleged" Christians can't explain that away.

The deception runs deep, after all the devil is the master deceiver. Please let us look through our 'looking glass' and accept the truth, in Christ's name.

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This is embarrassing. I thought you were new. I am old and forgetful. I did change the picture.
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I need to change that picture. I had to give Mr. Nivens away. He had been traumatized in the past by a mean man. When I got him, he was a wonderful dog, but when any man walked in the room he would jump up between them and me and growl. (I read up on it and found out when I dog does them that the man may have beaten the woman) The dog was trying to protect me but my husband has had several strokes so this was a problem for him. We gave him to a nice couple who were more able to train the dog to like men. I miss Mr. Nivens. I now have three cats and I do love them.
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I hope Mr. Nevins is warm enough, but then again it is summer.
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Yes, example of giving a little to deceive, of course FACT is the republican party legalized abortion.

Just an observation, seeing so many humans suffering, starving and dieing because of the results. Then I see alleged "Christians" display pictures of their dog in a doggie sweater....makes me think of what Christ would say.

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President Bush out lawed partial birth abortions. Yes actions do speak louder then words.
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I can confidently say DEMOCRATS believe it is okay to abort babies even have post-term abortions
The republican party started abortion (proven fact)...bits and pieces and "trying" to make it right is a proven deception.

It would be nice if everyone would apply Christ's teachings and way of life. But we are fallen human beings living in a fallen world. The political scheme is perverted and harm many. However, being fallen humans we tend to cling towards an agenda that is opposite of Christ's teaching.

I have no political agenda in any way, if a political entity claims they are Christian it will be made known by their fruits period.

However, if people think or believe in a certain agenda or are in a certain paradigm they resist to look at proven facts.

Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is STILL voting for evil! "Alleged" Christians can't explain that away.

The deception runs deep, after all the devil is the master deceiver. Please let us look through our 'looking glass' and accept the truth, in Christ's name.


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I am fed up with the Democratical party process. Since Prez Obama is the representative of that party as a whole, I rather Jesus would return and avoid voting again. This President has crammed down our throats to accept his ISLAMIC agenda. IF you do not believe he has an ISLAMIC agenda then your head has been buried in the sand. HE has lied about his religious belief in order to deceive Christians who would not otherwise vote for an Islamic president. After seeing this person in office I can confidently say DEMOCRATS believe it is okay to abort babies even have post-term abortions, it is okay to advocate Islam and condemn anything Christian. I voted for the Constutional Party. I know on this side of glory no one is perfect, but I do not advocate abortions, I do not advocate forcing Christian Ministries to abate their core beliefs just because the ACLU dare to misinterpret the Constitution concerning the separation of Church and State. This point of view is approved by the government for the government and does not exist in writing in the Constitution. ACLU It is duly defined as "Anti-Christian Liberties Union". Anyone advocating Islam advocate what the Koran says and that is "Do not suffer a Christian or Jew to live" and kill the infidel." Republicans have had their share of wolves in sheep clothing as well. If Christians avoid voting those Christians have no right to voice their discontent with the elected officials.
-Evil grows when good people do nothing-

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We have to occupy this world untill He returns.

I vote,I just try to pick the less evil to vote for. Politicians are politicians they just say whatever's popular to get votes.

I Samuel ch.8,God tells the Israelites what to expect since they wanted a man king over them and not God himself.

I am looking forward to the Return of the King of kings and Lord of lords.

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I vote. I feel it is my responsibility as a Christian to vote. I don't feel we have a right to complain about what government does, if we do not vote.
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quote:
Should we vote at all then?
Daniel, i can only answer for myself...and I do not vote, I have not voted for the last 25 years.

Yahshua's Kingdom is not of this world , so neither is mine.

i personally do not believe a liar can enter the Kingdom of Yahweh , so that would exclude all the President's in my life time.

It does not matter that you are lying to secure a Nation.

If you sin against people, it is not only making things right between you and Yahweh but also making thing right with the person or person you have wronged.

23Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;

24Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

all politician's Senators, Congressman, Lawyers and Judges are in the same boat...

I am afraid most of hem fall in to that category Yahshua was talking about when He said....



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..I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.


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President Bush did outlaw partial birth abortion. This was a step in the right direction.
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Hi Lineman,
Should we vote at all then?

With love in Christ, Daniel

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Oh, just one more relevant fact for this subject:

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Bush announced in April the appointment of Scott Evertz, leader of the Log Cabin Republicans in Wisconsin, to lead the new Office of National AIDS Policy. Evertz is the first openly gay person to be nominated to an office in the executive branch by a Republican president.
Source: Bush appoints openly gay policy chief

"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." Matthew 7:20

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The devil is THE master deceiver. And has deceived many.

From my understanding (please correct me if I am wrong) that the 1973 supreme court ruling concerning Roe V. Wade was in favor of Roe. This made abortion legal. "The decision gave a woman total autonomy over the pregnancy during the first trimester and defined different levels of state interest for the second and third trimesters. As a result, the laws of 46 states were affected by the Court's ruling."

What I find odd and disturbing is: the majority of the 1973 supreme court was nominated by republican presidents. The republicans had a clear majority by the ratio of 6 to 3. From that time til now, the republicans has a majority, and the 1973 decision still has not been overturned.

Your really can't go by what they say, their fruits prove their agenda.


Pro-lifers not thrilled with Gonzales choice

Source

Or course there are many, many more.

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I disagree. I believe any time we vote for a democrat we are voting for someone who is for abortion. This said I was a democrat for many years until I saw a video of a partial birth abortion. Made me ill.
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I agree with that becausehelives. There is not one evil any better than another evil.

The Father of lies is behind it all.

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one lying demon is no different than another lying demon!

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I vote Republican because I am against killing of babies in the womb, against gay marriage, and against our Country becoming a socialist government.
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Hello Lineman,

Its nice to meet you.

Would you please elaborate and perhaps be a little more specific at what "surprises" you about Christians who choose to vote Republican.

With love in Christ, Daniel

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Why would "Christians" vote republican? Maybe it's just me, maybe I am not getting it?
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