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Bloodbought
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Luke 18:1 And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;
2 Saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man:
3 And there was a widow in that city; and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary.
4 And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man;
5 Yet because this widow troubleth me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.
6 And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith.
7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

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Luke 22:
42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.
44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.

In the example of the Lord Jesus Christ in prayer:

"Not my will but Thine be done".

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A Servant of Christ,
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1 Tim. 3:
16: And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh..

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Lot chose what seemed to him to be the best value, the nice green farmland. The end result was sin and suffering and death.

We can then move on to another prayer by the great Apostle Paul. He had a thorn in the flesh, for which he saught the Lord three times to remove it.

2 Corinthians 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ’s sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

What a lesson. Paul did not receive the answer he wanted, he received the answer he needed. He prayed three times for the removal of the thorn, but the answer he received was, "my grace is sufficient for thee". Jesus prayed three times for the removal of the cup. Daniel prayed and give thanks three times a day.

All three individuals were not seeking self gratification, they were seeking the glory of God. This is the mark of a righteous man who can be sure of the Fathers favor.

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Unanswered Prayer

By C.R. Stam

"Do you believe in prayer?"

The writer was asked this question some time ago by a woman who had prayed in vain for the recovery of her sick husband.

"No," I replied, "I do not believe in prayer. But I do believe in a God who hears and answers prayer."

The woman's question reminded me of my childhood days.

One day at school a playmate showed me a beautiful fountain pen.

"Where did you get it?" I asked.

"Lucky stone," he replied simply, and taking me to a hill nearby he found a smooth brown pebble and showed me how to use it.

Closing his eyes he threw it into the air over his head and said solemnly, "Lucky stone, lucky stone, bring me luck."

"Is that all you did?" I asked.

"Sure, I tried it yesterday, and this morning I found this pen. Eddie showed me how. He found a quarter the same way."

Needless to say, I found a good many "lucky stones" that afternoon and went through the ceremony again and again.

But, I didn't find a thing! even though I walked about with my eyes almost glued to the ground!

The next day I found my friend, and Eddie too, and asked them: Had I done it the right way? Had I used the right kind of stone? How long are you supposed to wait before you find something?

It was not long before I had completely lost faith in "lucky stones." When the boys kept inquiring about my luck I scoffed, "G'wan, I don't believe in that stuff!"

This incident came back to me when I was asked "Do you believe in prayer?"

Millions of people, saved as well as lost, are positively superstitious about prayer. They try it. If their requests are granted they say, "I believe in prayer. I have found that it works." But if their requests are not granted they begin to doubt—as though prayer in itself ever had any power or efficacy.

Of course, not all Christians are superstitious, but this only adds to the difficulty. Many sincere and thoughtful believers have trusted and claimed certain written promises from the Word, only to find those promises unfulfilled in their lives. As a result they have found themselves struggling against the feeling that God is not faithful. This is a far more serious difficulty.

To these, and to all believers who have been tempted to doubt God because of unanswered prayer, we offer God's wonderful solution to the problem.

PRAYER PROMISES

"And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive" (Matt. 21:22).

"Again I say unto you, that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching anything that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of My Father which is in heaven" (Matt. 18:19).

Wonderful promises! Meditate upon them for a few moments. "ALL THINGS—WHATSOEVER ye shall ask in prayer, believing!" "If two of you shall agree on earth as touching ANYTHING THAT THEY SHALL ASK!"

Wonderful promises, indeed! Yet who can deny that they have proved more discouraging than encouraging to many sincere Christians?

Reading these verses, many of God's children have been encouraged to ask for physical healing, daily employment, deliverance from temptation and many other things in prayer, believing, but have been deeply disappointed to find their requests ungranted. Such experiences have often left deeper scars on the lives of believers than their fellow men observe.

Before seeking the explanation to this fact let us first be wholly honest and acknowledge it to be a fact.

There was a time when my own faith was rudely shaken by this vexing problem. We had been holding open air meetings for many weeks without seeing any results. How we longed to see precious souls saved! Before going out one day my co-worker asked, "Do you believe Matthew 18:19, that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching anything that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of My Father which is in heaven?"

I said, "God knows I want to believe it." So we got down on our knees to ask for souls, claiming this promise. As we prayed I could not forget that the Lord had graciously helped one who had cried "Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief."

We arose from prayer that day with peculiar confidence. We knew before we had even begun to preach that God would give us souls. But—He didn't!

Few people stood around and there was no indication that anyone was at all impressed by our words. We agreed, of course, that we shouldn't expect to see fruit immediately. Perhaps we would find out later that God had answered our prayer.

But we did not find out that God had answered our prayer and I, for one, felt it deeply. This had happened before, too often, and now I found myself struggling against doubt and rebellion.

Thank God, Philippians 1:6 is blessedly true: "...He which hath begun a good work in you will perform it...."

If Philippians 1:6 were not true this might have been the end of my Christian life, but as it was I was only driven to my knees again and—finally to my Bible!

Is it not strange that we generally place more importance upon prayer than upon Bible study! How often the question has been asked from the pulpit, "How many of you have spent half an hour in prayer today?" Yet rarely does the preacher ask "How many have spent half an hour with the Word today?" Is prayer then more important than the study of the Word? Surely what God says to us is infinitely more important than anything we might have to say to Him.

As this dawned upon me, I went once more to the Word. I realized that I had simply taken verses here and there and had claimed their fulfillment without any regard to the context, without even inquiring whether those promises had been made to me!

I had not obeyed II Timothy 2:15, and I was supposed to be one of God's workmen! I had ignored the very verse in which He Himself had told me how I might be "approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed."

"Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" (II Tim. 2:15).

It was not long before I knew I had the answer to my heart's problem. My difficulties vanished as I began to practice II Timothy 2:15. And not only did they vanish, but I came into the possession of the greatest blessing of my Christian life, the key to so many problems—the knowledge of the mystery of God's purpose and grace. This, and this alone, is the answer to the problem we have been considering. But, before we go into this, let us consider briefly some popular explanations.

POPULAR EXPLANATIONS

Some time after I had come into the knowledge of "the mystery," a special meeting was called by one who, though he had been saved for many years, had found his faith sorely tried by the same perplexing problem.

He invited a popular preacher to address a group of Christian workers on the question of unanswered prayer. I was one of those invited.

The preacher went through the same familiar explanations I had heard so often—explanations which certainly never satisfied my heart.

He said that there may be a divine factor in unanswered prayer. That is, God may, for His own good reasons, deem it best not to grant some request, as in the case of Job.

Then too, he went on, there are human factors to take into consideration, such as sin harbored in the heart (Psa. 66:18), selfishness (Jas. 4:3) and a spirit of unbelief (Jas. 1:6,7), all of which, he said, would result in unanswered prayer.

Then he came to the climax of his message. How could we be sure our prayers would be answered?

He asked us to turn to Mark 11:22-24,

"And Jesus answering saith unto them, have faith in God.

"For verily I say unto you, that whosoever shall say unto this mountain, be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

"Therefore I say unto you, what things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them."

From these verses he urged us to put away all known sin and selfishness and reap the blessed results of believing prayer.

But I felt like asking, "What about the divine factor? Suppose I pray in true faith, and God, for His own good reasons, deems it best not to grant my requests as in the case of Job!?"

How I longed, that day, to breathe into his ear and into the ears of all those present, the solution to the problem—the mystery! But he had already turned a deaf ear to that glorious message.

THE SOLUTION

We agree, of course, that harbored sin will hinder prayer and that selfish requests should remain unanswered, but these present no difficulty. The problem is why sincere believers, seeking honestly to live for Christ and praying in humble faith, should so often find their prayers unanswered.

Granting that human failure enters into the question of unanswered prayer, is it not a fact that many, living in conscious fellowship with God, eager to do His will and confidently believing their requests would be granted have been discouraged, not to say disillusioned by unanswered prayer? They had rested in the promise that whatsoever they asked in prayer, believing, they would receive. They asked, believing, and did not receive.

The answer to this problem, as to so many problems, is a dispensational one.

Have you ever noticed where the "whatsoever" promises are found? They are found only in one small portion of the Bible—that dealing with our Lord's earthly ministry (though they are referred to in the Hebrew Christian epistles).

Never in the Old Testament, nor in the Pauline epistles do we find that "all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive."

Why is this? Simply because these promises had to do with the establishment of Christ's kingdom on earth. These are the conditions which will prevail during His reign and He proclaimed them as part of "the gospel of the kingdom."

We do find in Isaiah 65:24,

"And it shall come to pass that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking I will hear."

This is a wonderful promise, indeed, but it has not been used very intelligently by Christians in general.

How many sincere Christians have quoted this passage after receiving some blessing without even asking for it! They have said, "How true God's Word is! Didn't He say `Before they call I will answer; and while they are yet speaking I will hear'?" However, few quote this verse when they have struggled long in prayer without receiving an answer from the Lord!

But suppose that through some strange circumstances we should see a wolf and a lamb feeding together and I should quote the next verse, and say, "How true God's Word is! Didn't He say `the wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock'?"

Would I be using the Word of God intelligently? Of course not. You would say, "Yes, the Word of God is true, but Isaiah 65:25 does not apply to this. It speaks of the kingdom reign of Christ when this shall be the rule, when wolves and lambs, lions and bullocks, as well as men shall get along together." And you would be right. That whole portion of Isaiah 65 speaks clearly of Messiah's reign. It is concerning this period of time that we read, "And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking I will hear." It is not strange, then, that we should find "whatsoever" promises in connection with "the gospel of the kingdom."

Certainly it is not the rule today, among God's people, to receive the answers to our requests before we even make them, nor even while we are presenting them. Far more often we have the experience of David who cried, "How long, O Lord, How long?" And surely we need David's advice, "Wait patiently for Him," for God does not generally answer before we call.

But when our Lord reigns in the kingdom things will be vastly different. He will have control over man's three greatest enemies—the world, the flesh and the devil.

The world?

"The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ" (Rev. 11:15).

The flesh?

"The child shall die a hundred years old" (Isa. 65:20).

That is, he that dies at one hundred years old shall be considered a child.

The Devil?

"And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years. And cast him into the bottomless pit..." (Rev. 20:2,3).

What a changed scene! "The times of refreshing!" In those days the Lord will no longer hide His face, but heaven will be opened to the earth.

It was all this which our Lord had in view when He preached "the gospel of the kingdom." It was this which Peter had in view when he cried, after Christ had gone to heaven,

"Repent...the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; and He shall send Jesus Christ which before was preached unto you" (Acts 3:19,20).

But the kingdom was rejected. God did not send Jesus and the times of refreshing did not come, indeed have not yet come.

The age in which we live is, to a superlative degree, an evil age. Paul calls it, "This present evil age" (Gal. 1:4). It is the age of the rejection of the Son of God. It is the age when the world has been given up to the wrath and judgment of God.

It is only because of "the exceeding riches of His grace," that the vials of His wrath have not yet been poured out upon this rebellious race, for "the rulers of the darkness of this age" hold sway and "the god of this age hath blinded the minds of them that believe not" (Eph. 6:12; II Cor. 4:4).

Our blessed Lord cast out Satan, the oppressor of this fallen world, and offered man deliverance, but lo, man did not want to be delivered. Satan is the god of this age. Today Satan still reigns by the will of man and the sufferance of God. (See John 12:31, 16:11; II Cor. 4:4).

But God overrules. He "worketh all things after the counsel of His own will" (Eph. 1:11).

This present evil age is also the age of grace. Some years after Pentecost, Paul wrote these wonderful words:

"Where sin abounded grace did much more abound.

"That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign, through righteousness, unto eternal life, by Jesus Christ our Lord" (Rom. 5:20,21).

"For God hath concluded them all in unbelief that He might have mercy upon all" (Rom. 11:32).

"And that He might reconcile both unto God in one Body by the Cross, having slain the enmity thereby" (Eph. 2:16).

Neither man nor Satan knew it, but this was God's eternal purpose in Christ. It was a mystery, "kept secret since the world began" (Rom. 16:25), "in other ages was not made known," (Eph. 3:5), "hid in God," (Eph. 3:9), "hid from ages and generations," (Col. 1:26), "the unsearchable riches of Christ," (eph. 3:8), "His own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began" (II Tim. 1:9).

Still, God waits in mercy while His ambassadors go forth with the message of reconciliation, God's offer of grace to a lost and ruined world. (See II Cor. 5:16-21 and read carefully).

And what about prayer in this age of abounding sin and overabounding grace? Does God promise to grant whatsoever we ask in prayer believing? He does not. Even Paul had to learn this. (See II Cor. 12:8-10). He offers us something better and more perfectly suited to our circumstances.

GOD'S PLAN FOR OUR PRAYER LIFE

What Christian cannot freely quote Romans 8:28!

"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to His purpose."

But how few Christians can quote Romans 8:26! Yet Romans 8:28 cannot be fully understood or appreciated except against the background of Romans 8:26.

Romans 8:28 tells us what "we know." Romans 8:26 tells us what "we know not."

Now let us consider them together:

"...we know not what we should pray for as we ought...."

"...we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to His purpose."

How wonderfully this fits our present circumstances!

In "the darkness of this age" it would be calamitous if we received whatever we asked in prayer, believing. Indeed, a large proportion of the time, "we know not what we should pray for." We must get down on our knees and say, "Lord, the way is dark. I cannot see one step before me. I do not even know what to ask."

But though "we know not what we should pray for as we ought," "the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities;" "He maketh intercession for the saints," and God works "all things together for good" to us.

The highest expression of faith is found in Paul's words to the Philippians (4:6,7).

"Be careful [anxious] for nothing!

"But in everything

"By prayer and supplication,

"With thanksgiving,

"Let your requests be made known unto God

"And...."

"And" what?

And "Whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive?"

NO!!

"And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep [garrison] your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus."

Here is ample proof that God is not deaf to the cries of His children in this age. He wants them to pour out all their hearts before Him. There is nothing He does not wish to hear about. He says, "Tell me everything and be anxious about nothing for I'll work it all out for your good." He who loves us is working out our future!

How foolish then to say, "What's the use of praying if we do not receive what we ask for?" It is because of the very darkness of this age that we must be willing to leave the outcome with Him.

He is the Head of the Body and, remember, the head always does the thinking.

Learn this lesson and "the peace of God, which passeth all understanding shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus."

"For we walk by faith not by sight" (ii cor. 5:7). We walk (or should walk) by faith even though we see no public demonstrations as were seen at Pentecost. We walk by faith even though our requests are not granted. We walk by faith even though things seem to go against us for we know He is working all things out for our good. Not for our present apparent good, perhaps, but certainly for our eventual, eternal good.

Does this satisfy you, Christian friend? If not, let us ask one simple question in closing.

WHICH WOULD YOU CHOOSE?

If you were offered either a $1.00 bill or a $10.00 bill, which would you choose?

If, in this age of darkness and sin, God should offer you either whatsoever ye ask in prayer, believing, or exceeding abundantly above all you could possibly ask, or think, which would you choose?

"Now unto Him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us.

"Unto Him be glory in the Church by Christ Jesus, throughout all ages, world without end. Amen" (Eph. 3:20,21).

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quote:
Originally posted by Bloodbought:
quote:
Originally posted by WildB:
by C.R. Stam

Would you like to have the knowledge, the assurance and the joy of sins forgiven? Would you like to be sure of heaven?

Well, the first step to heaven is to realize that you cannot get there by trying. You can't walk there. You can't climb there. You can't fly there. Only God can take you there. Many try to earn heaven. They try to climb there on a ladder of good works. They talk about "adding another rung." But look out for that good works ladder! It's not anchored at the top and the higher you climb the farther you will fall.

God's Word says that salvation is "the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast" (Eph. 2:8,9). He is not going to have boasters in heaven -- there are enough of them on earth and nobody likes them.

All of us should realize that even the best of us are not good enough for heaven, for "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God" (Rom. 3:23), but in this same statement the Apostle Paul declares that believers in Christ, who died for our sins, are "justified freely by His [God's] grace, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Rom. 3:24). "Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" (Rom. 5:1).

So, friend, it is not by trying, or crying, or praying, or paying, or doing anything that you will reach heaven: it is only by believing. God says He loves sinners, and that Christ died for our sins. Will you believe this and trust Christ as your Savior? The terms are stated very plainly in John 3:35,36:

"The Father loveth the Son and hath given all things into His hand. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life, and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him."

[Prayer]

Dear Father, of heavenly lights,

You have called we who were "not your people" to be "your people,"we who were "not your beloved" to be "your beloved." How gracious you have been to us that we should be called

" The Kings Kids "!

Thank you, loving Father!

Why did your ancient people fail to attain your righteousness? Because they sought it based on their works of merit under the law.

But, praise you, Lord, you have given
righteousness through faith.

You have laid in Zion a stone that makes men stumble, a rock that makes them fall. Your Messiah, Jesus, is that stone, that rock. But
we believe in him, trust in him, and will never be ashamed of him by the strength of your Spirit within us.

In the blessed name of Jesus,
the rock of my salvation, I pray.

Amen.

The thing that marked the Apostle Pauls conversion was, "behold he prayeth". for the first time in his life he is offering up true prayer.
I think you would too if you were blinded for three days, not eating or drinking after swallowing some dust. Those around him may have thought him going mad with his incoherent talk but not Our Lord.

Acts 9:8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus.
9 And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.


What marked the Apostle Pauls conversion was getting his religious pride bloodied after kicking against the pricks of real righteousness and truth.

True prayer was the result.

Acts 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.


True prayer is not a mark or a measure but a means to a relationship with God.

TRUE PRAYER

by C. R. Stam

Let us suppose that I have just had the joy of leading a soul to Christ. He was a godless, wicked creature until lately, but now, suddenly, a great transformation has taken place in his life. He is overwhelmed with the joy of sins forgiven. Nevertheless a few things still trouble him.

As he stands there, touched by the love of Christ, he says: "I don't look very much like a Christian. Look at my clothes. And I ought to get a job and work like other people do. Then too, I've been a wicked blasphemer. Swearing seems to be part of my nature. I don't know how I'll ever stop it."

I suggest that we pray about it, but he says he has never prayed in his life and doesn't know how, so I teach him. I tell him how simple prayer is -- that he should simply talk to God and say, "Lord, I need a decent suit of clothes and a job, and oh, please help me to stop swearing. I ask it in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."

We arise from prayer, and feeling for the man, I myself get him a suit of clothes and a job and he goes on his way rejoicing.

Now let us suppose that I return ten years later to find that he is happily married, has three children and is living a consistent Christian life. Calling at his home, however, I find that one of his children is seriously ill. We get on our knees to pray for the child and he begins:

"Lord, I need a decent suit of clothes and a job, and oh, please help me to stop swearing."

Ridiculous! you say. No man would be so foolish. Yes, ridiculous indeed, yet many people simply repeat prayers in the same way. The so-called "Lord's Prayer" is, of course, a perfect prayer, but it is significant that in giving this very prayer, our Lord cautioned His disciples: "When ye pray, use not vain repetitions as the heathen do... Be not... like unto them... After this manner therefore pray ye..." (Matt. 6:7-9). Yet this very prayer is repeated word for word at funerals and weddings, in storms at sea, before meals and at church services -- on practically any occasion, whether it applies or not.

Thank God for those who know God through the Lord Jesus Christ and can truly enter into His presence in prayer "to obtain mercy and to find grace to help in time of need" (Heb. 4:16).

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quote:
Originally posted by WildB:
by C.R. Stam

Would you like to have the knowledge, the assurance and the joy of sins forgiven? Would you like to be sure of heaven?

Well, the first step to heaven is to realize that you cannot get there by trying. You can't walk there. You can't climb there. You can't fly there. Only God can take you there. Many try to earn heaven. They try to climb there on a ladder of good works. They talk about "adding another rung." But look out for that good works ladder! It's not anchored at the top and the higher you climb the farther you will fall.

God's Word says that salvation is "the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast" (Eph. 2:8,9). He is not going to have boasters in heaven -- there are enough of them on earth and nobody likes them.

All of us should realize that even the best of us are not good enough for heaven, for "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God" (Rom. 3:23), but in this same statement the Apostle Paul declares that believers in Christ, who died for our sins, are "justified freely by His [God's] grace, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Rom. 3:24). "Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" (Rom. 5:1).

So, friend, it is not by trying, or crying, or praying, or paying, or doing anything that you will reach heaven: it is only by believing. God says He loves sinners, and that Christ died for our sins. Will you believe this and trust Christ as your Savior? The terms are stated very plainly in John 3:35,36:

"The Father loveth the Son and hath given all things into His hand. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life, and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him."

[Prayer]

Dear Father, of heavenly lights,

You have called we who were "not your people" to be "your people,"we who were "not your beloved" to be "your beloved." How gracious you have been to us that we should be called

" The Kings Kids "!

Thank you, loving Father!

Why did your ancient people fail to attain your righteousness? Because they sought it based on their works of merit under the law.

But, praise you, Lord, you have given
righteousness through faith.

You have laid in Zion a stone that makes men stumble, a rock that makes them fall. Your Messiah, Jesus, is that stone, that rock. But
we believe in him, trust in him, and will never be ashamed of him by the strength of your Spirit within us.

In the blessed name of Jesus,
the rock of my salvation, I pray.

Amen.

The thing that marked the Apostle Pauls conversion was, "behold he prayeth". for the first time in his life he is offering up true prayer. Paul was, as were many others in scripture, a notable sinner. He was persecuting the christians.

Abraham Isaac and Jacob were also notable sinners.

For 25 years Abraham went around telling everyone lies that his wife was his sister.

Isaac had a personal love for Esau just because he served him delicious venison even though he knew that Jacob was chosen by God.

Jacob goes down in history as one of the worst scoundrel you could meet.

The scripture is full of the most notorious sinners who ever lived. Why, because God wants to demonstrate that the greatest sinner who tries to bluff his way and cover his sin, can, through the providence and purpose of God, be humbled to the point where he will confess his sin and turn to the Lord for salvation.

You will know a believer by his fruit, "behold he prayeth", this is the mark that makes him stand out as a true believer.

Daniel prayed three times a day and was thrown to the Lions which never opened their mouth.

We could go on and on about what men of faith have accomplished through prayer, but sadly prayer is much neglected these days. The prayer meeting is the worst attended meeting of the week. No wonder it is difficult to distinguish the believer from the unbeliever in this present world. Some say you will know believers by their works, by what they do, but unbelievers and false prophets can deceive by their deeds.

If we do not draw sap from the vine and abide in the vine through prayer, we become unsure, unfruitful and good for nothing.

Philippians 4:6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

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Very true, but sinners don't do that. They may not read scripture at all or even care about God's Word.

Why will sinners not come into the “light of life”? Because they love the darkness! They want to persist in their evil deeds, and this keeps them from coming to the light; for the closer the sinner gets to the light, the more his sins are exposed. It is not “intellectual problems” that keep people from trusting Christ; it is the moral and spiritual blindness that keeps them loving the darkness and hating the light.


John 3:19 - 21 (NASB)

“This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. “For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. “But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.”

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quote:
Originally posted by Carol Swenson:
I'm not a Piper fan, but I like what he said in my last post, and I quote from him from time to time.

I have favorite teachers to be sure, but I try to remember that I don't follow them, I follow Christ.

So, if a bad guy says something good it's still good. And if a good guy says something bad, it's still bad.

Amen.

I have been both,lol.

Romans 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Nevertheless, we must be Bereans and examine all things in light of God’s Authority in the Scripture.

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I'm not a Piper fan, but I like what he said in my last post, and I quote from him from time to time.

I have favorite teachers to be sure, but I try to remember that I don't follow them, I follow Christ.

So, if a bad guy says something good it's still good. And if a good guy says something bad, it's still bad.

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quote:
Originally posted by yahsway:
Its ironic you quote Piper as he does not believe in a pre-trib rapture as most do here. Also he is a part of the emergent church movement and practices Divina Lecto/Contemplative prayer which has its roots in Mysticisim. Im not saying his quote is wrong, just saying in these last days we need to be wise as serpents about whose teaching we sit under.

ON JOHN PIPER AND LECTIO DIVINA…
By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Jan 9, 2012 in Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism, Current Issues


By Apprising Ministries special correspondent Justin Edwards of airō

And he answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.” – Luke 10:27

The blog world has been lit up since last week’s 2012 Passion Conference where John Piper stood on stage with other popular teachers to read the Word of God followed by silence and contemplation. As I do not wish to repeat what others have said on the subject, I’ll simply ask a few questions, provide some information, present the material in question, and let you decide with hopes of discussing these concerns.

Before we proceed, I’d like to caveat this post to say I have greatly benefited from John Piper on various issues and doctrinal teachings. While I have not hugely followed Piper in the past, I recognize his positive influence in the reformed tradition and that he is a highly respected pastor/teacher internationally. So I do not post this article as a witch hunt against John Piper, but this issue is just one more concern in a list of recent concerns over the last couple of years that should give us all pause to ask what is going on here. Unfortunately, I am finding I can less and less recommend John Piper because of the direction he seems to be going, and that is very sad to me. Nevertheless, we must be Bereans and examine all things in light of God’s Authority in the Scripture.

Let’s get started…

http://apprising.org/2012/01/09/on-john-piper-and-lectio-divina/

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Its ironic you quote Piper as he does not believe in a pre-trib rapture as most do here. Also he is a part of the emergent church movement and practices Divina Lecto/Contemplative prayer which has its roots in Mysticisim. Im not saying his quote is wrong, just saying in these last days we need to be wise as serpents about whose teaching we sit under.
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John 3:19-21 (NASB)

This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.

The focus of this message will be on John 3:19–21. The main point will be that there is a kind of judgment that came into the world when the Son of God, Jesus Christ, came into the world, and this judgment reveals that the guilt of not coming to Jesus lies in the heart of man, and the grace of coming to Jesus comes from the heart of God.

Or to put it another way: The coming of Jesus into the world clarifies that unbelief is our fault, and belief is God’s gift. Which means that if we do not come to Christ, but rather perish eternally, we magnify God’s justice. And if we do come to Christ and gain eternal life, we magnify God’s grace.

Piper
http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/sermons/this-is-the-judgment-light-has-come-into-the-world

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ditto

Good post WildB!

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thank you for sharing

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Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

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by C.R. Stam

Would you like to have the knowledge, the assurance and the joy of sins forgiven? Would you like to be sure of heaven?

Well, the first step to heaven is to realize that you cannot get there by trying. You can't walk there. You can't climb there. You can't fly there. Only God can take you there. Many try to earn heaven. They try to climb there on a ladder of good works. They talk about "adding another rung." But look out for that good works ladder! It's not anchored at the top and the higher you climb the farther you will fall.

God's Word says that salvation is "the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast" (Eph. 2:8,9). He is not going to have boasters in heaven -- there are enough of them on earth and nobody likes them.

All of us should realize that even the best of us are not good enough for heaven, for "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God" (Rom. 3:23), but in this same statement the Apostle Paul declares that believers in Christ, who died for our sins, are "justified freely by His [God's] grace, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Rom. 3:24). "Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" (Rom. 5:1).

So, friend, it is not by trying, or crying, or praying, or paying, or doing anything that you will reach heaven: it is only by believing. God says He loves sinners, and that Christ died for our sins. Will you believe this and trust Christ as your Savior? The terms are stated very plainly in John 3:35,36:

"The Father loveth the Son and hath given all things into His hand. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life, and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him."

[Prayer]

Dear Father, of heavenly lights,

You have called we who were "not your people" to be "your people,"we who were "not your beloved" to be "your beloved." How gracious you have been to us that we should be called

" The Kings Kids "!

Thank you, loving Father!

Why did your ancient people fail to attain your righteousness? Because they sought it based on their works of merit under the law.

But, praise you, Lord, you have given
righteousness through faith.

You have laid in Zion a stone that makes men stumble, a rock that makes them fall. Your Messiah, Jesus, is that stone, that rock. But
we believe in him, trust in him, and will never be ashamed of him by the strength of your Spirit within us.

In the blessed name of Jesus,
the rock of my salvation, I pray.

Amen.


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