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I don't think any Christian would argue the fact that we are to love Eden... Love (Jesus Christ) stretched out both arms and died for ALL sin while we were still lost in our sins!
We are to love the sinner lost in sin by sharing that good news with them and living a Christ-like lifestyle before them.
The fact of the matter is that men love darkness (their sin) rather than the light. They love their sin and try to hide from exposure and look for the approval of men. If we as Christians tolerate, approve of and accept sinful lifestyles that separate the sinner from God, what good are we? In my opinion- this would be true hatred.
I pray He leads me always to be not only the verbal witness but the Christ-like example that He is pleased with.
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MentorsRiddle wrote quote:
We aren’t being hateful, we are being CHRISTIANS!!! I’m proud of that fact.
Not only was Jesus full of truth, He was also full of grace:
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh and dwelled among us (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth.
One thing that Christianity should have made us, is kind and considerate. The Holy Spirit is a Gentleman.
Ezekiel 36:26
A new heart also will I give you and a new spirit will I put within you; I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh and I will give you a heart of flesh.
As Pastor Rick Warren said on Meet the Press, "I stand up for what Jesus stood for and said", but "He also called me to love everyone":
Galatians 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in this one word, even in this: You shall love yuor neighbor as yourself.
Even when we evangelize for Jesus, we can be kind and considerate. The Holy Spirit is a Gentleman. Love is always politically correct:
Proverbs 10:12
Hatred stirs up strifes: but love covers all sins.
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![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) I like your thoughts!
We can give them the following to read and reconsider what raw truth looks like...
Matt 23:13“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.c
15“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.
16“Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.’ 17You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.’ 19You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22And he who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.
23“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
25“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
27“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
29“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
33“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
37“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. 38Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’
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~To Him That is able to keep you from falling and to present you before His glorious presence without fault and with great joy...to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.~ Jude 24
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Jesus was not interested in whose feelings He might have hurt by speaking the truth but knew that all must humble themselves and repent. God alone knows our hearts and thoughts and will eventually get to the root of all problems, sin.
I don’t think that Jesus didn’t care about whose feelings he hurt because he was mean.
I think he didn’t care about hurting their feelings, because the alternative: him not telling them the truth, would be worse for those people.
If Jesus didn’t speak the truth, then millions would be going to hell – dare I say billions?
If Jesus was “politically correct” then he would have said things like:
“Homosexuality is a disease and something you’re born with, which God will over look.”
“If you cheat on your spouse, God will understand because it is in your nature.”
“It’s ok if you don’t like someone because they wronged you – they should have been more considerate of your feelings instead of their own.”
But, Jesus didn’t say these things because they simply aren’t true.
You know, people of this world (who aren’t saved) think that Christians are hateful and being mean when we say things like: Homosexuality is a sin and wrong, Islam is a demonic religion, etc.
We aren’t being hateful, we are being CHRISTIANS!!! I’m proud of that fact.
We are being loving and caring.
We tell these people the truth because that’s what Christ would have commanded of us.
We tell these people the truth because we love them.
“How is “insulting them” being loving & caring?” someone may ask.
I reply, “Because if I didn’t tell them the truth they would be in greater danger of going to hell if I had not told them the truth.”
Amen?
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MentorsRiddle wrote:
Jesus Christ is God, and there for spoke the truth, so he wasn’t speaking with political correctness – he was speaking with correctness: truth.
Amen ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Jesus was not interested in whose feelings He might have hurt by speaking the truth but knew that all must humble themselves and repent. God alone knows our hearts and thoughts and will eventually get to the root of all problems, sin.
John 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.
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~To Him That is able to keep you from falling and to present you before His glorious presence without fault and with great joy...to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.~ Jude 24
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In my opinion Political Correctness is simply conforming to the ideas of someone who you know to be in the wrong.
For example, it is not politically correct for me to say Islam is a bad religion.
The reason it is not correct is because it may offend some of them…
Jesus Christ is God, and there for spoke the truth, so he wasn’t speaking with political correctness – he was speaking with correctness: truth.
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With you I rise,
In you I sleep,
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Grace abounds upon me now,
I once was lost
but now I'm found.
The gift of God dwells within,
To this love I now give in.
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Read the Gospels: Jesus Christ is Not Politically Correct
(Read the Gospels: JC is not PC)
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John MacArthur
This article was posted, by The Washington Post, in the "On Faith" section of their website on Aug 14, 2009
Let's be brutally honest: most of Jesus' teaching is completely out of sync with the mores that dominate our culture.
I'm talking, of course, about the Jesus we encounter in Scripture, not the always-gentle, never-stern, super-lenient coloring-book character who exists only in the popular imagination. The real Jesus was no domesticated clergyman with a starched collar and genteel manners; he was a bold, uncompromising Prophet who regularly challenged the canons of political correctness.
Consider the account of Jesus' public ministry given in the New Testament. The first word of his first sermon was "Repent!"--a theme that was no more welcome and no less strident-sounding than it is today. The first act of his public ministry touched off a small riot. He made a whip of cords and chased money-changers and animal merchants off the Temple grounds. That initiated a three-year-long conflict with society's most distinguished religious leaders. They ultimately handed him over to Roman authorities for crucifixion while crowds of lay people cheered them on.
Jesus was pointedly, deliberately, and dogmatically counter-cultural in almost every way. No wonder the religious and academic aristocracy of his generation were so hostile to him.
Would Jesus receive a warmer welcome from world religious leaders, the media elite, or the political gentry today? Anyone who has seriously considered the New Testament knows very well that he would not. Our culture is devoted to pluralism and tolerance; contemptuous of all absolute or exclusive truth-claims; convinced that self-love is the greatest love of all; satisfied that most people are fundamentally good; and desperately wanting to believe that each of us is endowed with a spark of divinity.
Against such a culture Jesus' message strikes every discordant note.
Check the biblical record. Jesus' words were full of hard demands and stern warnings. He said, "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me. For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will save it. For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and is himself destroyed or lost?" (Luke 9:23-25). "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple" (Luke 14:26).
At one point an unthinkable Roman atrocity took the lives of many Galilean pilgrims who had come to worship in Jerusalem. Pilate, the Roman governor, ordered his men to murder some worshipers and then mingled their blood with the sacrifices they were offering. While the city was still reeling from that awful disaster, a tower fell in the nearby district of Siloam and instantly snuffed out eighteen more lives.
Asked about these back-to-back tragedies, Jesus said, "Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things? I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish" (Luke 13:2-5).
Ignoring the normal rules of taste, tact, and diplomacy, Jesus in effect declared that all his listeners were sinners in need of redemption. Then, as now, that message was virtually guaranteed to offend many--perhaps most--of Jesus' audience.
Those with no sense of personal guilt--including the vast majority of religious leaders--were of course immediately offended. They were convinced they were good enough to merit God's favor. Who was this man to summon them to repentance? They turned away in angry unbelief.
The only ones not offended were those who already sensed their guilt and were crushed under the weight of its burden. Unhindered by indignation or self-righteousness, they could hear the hope implicit in Jesus' words. For them, the repeated phrase "unless you repent" pointed the way to redemption.
Elsewhere, Jesus made the promise of life and forgiveness explicit: "He who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life" (John 5:24). "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand" (John 10:27-28).
That, of course, is the glorious message of the gospel, just as potent and just as relevant today as it was then. But the promise is for those who are weary of sin; those who hunger and thirst for righteousness (Matthew 5:6); those who come to Christ with repentant hearts--not those who are convinced they are fundamentally good.
Proud people, including lots of religious people who call themselves Christians, don't really believe Christ's message at all. He said, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance" (Mark 2:17).
So what would Jesus say to a pluralistic, tolerant, self-indulgent society like ours? I'm convinced his approach today would be the very same strategy we see in the New Testament. To smug, self-satisfied, arrogant sinners (including multitudes on church rolls) his words would sound harsh, shocking, provocative. But to "the poor in spirit" (Matthew 5:3)--those who are exhausted and spent by the ravages of sin; desperate for forgiveness and without any hope of atoning for their own sin--Jesus' call to repentant faith remains the very gateway to eternal life.
This is a particularly hard message in cultures like ours that elevate self-love, self-esteem, or self-righteousness, but Jesus was absolutely clear, and these words do still speak to us: "Everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted" (Luke 18:14).
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~To Him That is able to keep you from falling and to present you before His glorious presence without fault and with great joy...to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.~ Jude 24
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