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Carmela
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Thanks Yahsway. I was reading that as if it were a question he was asking and answering for himself or to us.
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BORN AGAIN
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dear Raj, welcome to the CBBS, you write quote: Our God is in heaven. He does whatever He pleases (Ps 115:3).
God does whatever He pleases. Lately God has been dealing with me about this subject.
Alfred Edersheim, author of The Life and Times of Jesus Christ", mentions that when one needs revelation about the Absolute Power and Absolute Control over absolutely everything, which revelation changes a person to either laugh hilariously and uproariously and also to check with God on a regular basis for concurrent leading and advice and very wise counsel.
God bless and namaste, BORN AGAIN
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WildB
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Dig this. The mesinger was like this not the message. So what is the message of this text?
James 5:17
Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain, and it didn't rain on the earth for three years and six months. (WEB)
Elijah was a man of like passions with us, and he prayed fervently that it might not rain; and it rained not on the earth for three years and six months. (ASV)
Elijah was a man of flesh and blood as we are, and he made a strong prayer that there might be no rain; and there was no rain on the earth for three years and six months. (BBE)
Elias was a man of like passions to us, and he prayed with prayer that it should not rain; and it did not rain upon the earth three years and six months; (DBY)
Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months. (KJV)
Elijah was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months. (WBS)
Elijah was a man with a nature similar to ours, and he earnestly prayed that there might be no rain: and no rain fell on the land for three years and six months. (WEY)
Elijah was a man like affected as we, and with prayer he did pray -- not to rain, and it did not rain upon the land three years and six months; (YLT)
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yahsway
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Carmela, I believe that what Raj was saying is that Jesus/Yeshua is God in the flesh. He says at the bottom of his post that these are questions he gets from others in India about Jesus being just a man.
And the verses Raj has used is asking those that believe that Jesus is just a man if a mere man can do such things.
Look at the beginning of Raj's post. He is asked this question from those he evangelizes to-
"Jesus was a normal man, Why do you say He is God?
And then Raj goes on to explain why He believes Jesus is God.
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Carmela
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Actually, the Jehovah Witness go door to door, and they also believe the same doctrine Raj does.
Raj from what I am gathering from this post, you are saying Jesus isn't God, am I right? Do you believe that Jesus was divine?
I believe that Jesus was with God in the beginning, and that God sent Jesus to us because the first Adam failed. Jesus didn't. I hear lots of people say that Jesus is God. I am not sure either way definitely but I don't believe that whether I think Jesus is God or that He isn't, that isn't what is going to get me into heaven. It's the heart that God will look at in us, not the wisdom we have.
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helpforhomeschoolers
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I noticed in your profile that you are involved in door to door evenagelism! Praise God. In the west we are not so good at evangelizing and building the church in the tradition of the apostles and it is to our shame. I hope that you will share some of your testimony with us. I am sure it will be encouraging and edifying.
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helpforhomeschoolers
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Amen! And welcome to the board Raj! It is nice to have with us a brother from India.
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Raj
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Jesus was a normal man. Why do you say that he is God?
Every human in this world, die one day. But Jesus was raised back on the third day of his death (LK 24:6). A normal man cannot rise again after his death. Jesus lead a life without even a small sin (Jn 8:46). He was testified as guiltless by Pilate the officer who enquired Him (Lk 23:4, 14, 22). Jesus was witnessed as a sinless person by his own apostles (1 Pet 2:22). Today can anyone say that he has not done even a single sin? Can any pre-eminent scholars, reformers or leaders say that they are guiltless? Jesus walked on the water like dry ground (Mat 14:25). Jesus penetrated the closed room and entered in (Jn 20:19). He was disappeared when the Pharisees tried to arrest Him, before the appointed time (Jn 8:59). A normal man cannot say, “Where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them”? (Mat 18:20) and “I am with you always even to the end of the age” (Mat 28:20). You cannot look at a normal man and say, “Now we are sure that You know all things and have no need that anyone should question You. By this we believe that You came forth from God”. (Jn 16:30). A normal man cannot say, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth (Mat 28:18). No so-called ‘gods’ can say, “I am He who lives and was dead and behold, I am alive forevermore” (Rev. 1:18). No leader can concert the water into wine. We can go on telling like this. God can do any thing other than committing sins. Can we ask God whether He can be manifested in flesh? Who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him? (1 Cor 2:16), Who has become his counselor? (Rom 11:34). Can man decide how God must be? I am not trying to justify one ‘god’ beheading the other “small god” and ‘god’ doing eve-teasing the girls who are taking bath. Our God is in heaven. He does whatever He pleases (Ps 115:3). The history would not have been divided into two as AD and BC if Jesus were a normal man.
-------------------- Be ready always to answer with meekness and reverence to people, who inquire about our faith. 1 Pet 3:15 Questions from Hindus that i face in ministry in India. How many know Christ because of you?
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